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Who_Am_I
Paralysing perfectionism
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Age: 24
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Location: My body is in Brisbane and my mind is in the gutter. :D
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He was a problem student. They had to do something and they'd probably already tried everything else. |
so it's okay to result to mainstream social BS: e.g. shaming and trying to getting him to fit the mold? LOL XD
EDIT: I saw this yesterday on 4chan's /b/. |
If it weren't for "mainstream social BS" we'd have people walking around wearing umbrella hats and polka-dot ties crapping in public and touching other people without permission (quite probably in very wrong places), just to name a few of the milder things that would be going on. |
What's wrong with umbrella hats and polka dot ties? They don't hurt anyone.
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Yupa
Avatar of Evil
Joined: May 15, 2005
Age: 18
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Location: Florida
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Who_Am_I wrote: | | Yupa wrote: | | Warsie wrote: | | Yupa wrote: |
He was a problem student. They had to do something and they'd probably already tried everything else. |
so it's okay to result to mainstream social BS: e.g. shaming and trying to getting him to fit the mold? LOL XD
EDIT: I saw this yesterday on 4chan's /b/. |
If it weren't for "mainstream social BS" we'd have people walking around wearing umbrella hats and polka-dot ties crapping in public and touching other people without permission (quite probably in very wrong places), just to name a few of the milder things that would be going on. |
What's wrong with umbrella hats and polka dot ties? They don't hurt anyone. |
They hurt the eyes of everyone who isn't a masochist |
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Who_Am_I
Paralysing perfectionism
Joined: Aug 28, 2005
Age: 24
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Location: My body is in Brisbane and my mind is in the gutter. :D
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Yupa wrote: | | Who_Am_I wrote: | | Yupa wrote: | | Warsie wrote: | | Yupa wrote: |
He was a problem student. They had to do something and they'd probably already tried everything else. |
so it's okay to result to mainstream social BS: e.g. shaming and trying to getting him to fit the mold? LOL XD
EDIT: I saw this yesterday on 4chan's /b/. |
If it weren't for "mainstream social BS" we'd have people walking around wearing umbrella hats and polka-dot ties crapping in public and touching other people without permission (quite probably in very wrong places), just to name a few of the milder things that would be going on. |
What's wrong with umbrella hats and polka dot ties? They don't hurt anyone. |
They hurt the eyes of everyone who isn't a masochist |
How so?
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Yupa
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Age: 18
Posts: 1318
Location: Florida
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Who_Am_I wrote: | | Yupa wrote: | | Who_Am_I wrote: | | Yupa wrote: | | Warsie wrote: | | Yupa wrote: |
He was a problem student. They had to do something and they'd probably already tried everything else. |
so it's okay to result to mainstream social BS: e.g. shaming and trying to getting him to fit the mold? LOL XD
EDIT: I saw this yesterday on 4chan's /b/. |
If it weren't for "mainstream social BS" we'd have people walking around wearing umbrella hats and polka-dot ties crapping in public and touching other people without permission (quite probably in very wrong places), just to name a few of the milder things that would be going on. |
The same way your avatar hurts the eyes of anyone who isn't a masochist.
What's wrong with umbrella hats and polka dot ties? They don't hurt anyone. |
They hurt the eyes of everyone who isn't a masochist |
How so? |
The same way your avatar hurts the eyes of anyone who isn't a masochist. |
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acannon
Snowy Owl
Joined: Sep 29, 2007
Age: 20
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Okay, this thread has gotten way off-topic. Here's an update: the teacher has been reassigned and is no longer working with children. I'm not sure if she will eventually be fired or not, though. Alex is doing better. He hasn't been back to that school and I don't know if his mom will ever take him back there. I know I wouldn't, and I don't think she will. This story is apparently all over the blogosphere, especially the autism blogosphere, and it was a featured story on CNN and the Daily Kos, so hopefully the school won't drop the ball on this. |
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Yupa
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| The teacher was punished for doing the right thing, and when people are punished for doing what they should be doing, that really pisses me off. |
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acannon
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| She didn't do the right thing. She traumatized a little boy and taught a classroom of children to get rid of people who you don't like, to discriminate against people, and to call people names, none of which is practical in the real world and none of which is acceptable behavior. Even if he wasn't working well in the classroom, they should have moved him to a different classroom instead of letting the teacher use the students to get rid of him. That's horrible and uncalled for. |
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Yupa
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| acannon wrote: | | She didn't do the right thing. She traumatized a little boy and taught a classroom of children to get rid of people who you don't like, to discriminate against people, and to call people names, none of which is practical in the real world and none of which is acceptable behavior. Even if he wasn't working well in the classroom, they should have moved him to a different classroom instead of letting the teacher use the students to get rid of him. That's horrible and uncalled for. |
In the real world if people behave inappropriately they are either avoided or sent to prison, and/or won't be able to get a job.
In real life peoples' behaviour is evaluated when they get out of line and if their presence is determined to be detrimental to the workplace environment in any way they are fired.
What happened here is an incident that was intended to prepare a child for that reality.
Given all that I'd say it was very well called for. |
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acannon
Snowy Owl
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Yupa wrote: | | acannon wrote: | | She didn't do the right thing. She traumatized a little boy and taught a classroom of children to get rid of people who you don't like, to discriminate against people, and to call people names, none of which is practical in the real world and none of which is acceptable behavior. Even if he wasn't working well in the classroom, they should have moved him to a different classroom instead of letting the teacher use the students to get rid of him. That's horrible and uncalled for. |
In the real world if people behave inappropriately they are either avoided or sent to prison, and/or won't be able to get a job.
In real life peoples' behaviour is evaluated when they get out of line and if their presence is determined to be detrimental to the workplace environment in any way they are fired.
What happened here is an incident that was intended to prepare a child for that reality.
Given all that I'd say it was very well called for. |
OMG! He's freakin five years old! Give him a break! Believe me, he has plenty of time to learn that, and he can learn in a way that's a lot more gentle than getting voted out of a classroom. He can't do anything now that will get him thrown in jail besides maybe killing someone, which I'm pretty sure he wouldn't do, and, in this case, he didn't do. If anyone needs to learn the things you're talking about, it's the teacher. |
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NeantHumain
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Joined: Jun 25, 2004
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Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| This is horrible. |
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LostInEmulation
Penguin
Joined: Feb 11, 2008
Posts: 1275
Location: Germany
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 2:15 am Post subject: |
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In the real world if people behave inappropriately they are either avoided or sent to prison, and/or won't be able to get a job.
In real life peoples' behaviour is evaluated when they get out of line and if their presence is determined to be detrimental to the workplace environment in any way they are fired.
What happened here is an incident that was intended to prepare a child for that reality.
Given all that I'd say it was very well called for. |
First of all: This child is not an adult, he isn't even in an age with 2 digits in it. He is five years old. So to prepare him for the workplace is not exactly a priority.
Second: There surely would have been ways to deal with him which are not so traumatic for him. What this teacher did will probably be one of the things, which will haunt him. I can not imagine that this kind of treatment is healthy for him.
Third: Where does this idea from that everyone needs to adhere to a written-in-stone standard? I don't know how he disrupted people, but I know that people here said without these standards, people would wear inapproriate things. I do not see why this is an issue. In a saner world, it'd be okay to wear more things than just suits and costumes for the job. Why don't people realize from what times their prejudices concerning clothes come from and are deeply ashamed of being so irrational?  Sorry for the Off-Topic
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catspurr
Phoenix
Joined: Jan 16, 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Yupa wrote: | | acannon wrote: | | She didn't do the right thing. She traumatized a little boy and taught a classroom of children to get rid of people who you don't like, to discriminate against people, and to call people names, none of which is practical in the real world and none of which is acceptable behavior. Even if he wasn't working well in the classroom, they should have moved him to a different classroom instead of letting the teacher use the students to get rid of him. That's horrible and uncalled for. |
In the real world if people behave inappropriately they are either avoided or sent to prison, and/or won't be able to get a job.
In real life peoples' behaviour is evaluated when they get out of line and if their presence is determined to be detrimental to the workplace environment in any way they are fired.
What happened here is an incident that was intended to prepare a child for that reality.
Given all that I'd say it was very well called for. |
Yeah...
I was taught those so called lessons and all it did was made my hatred of people even more intense. |
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jamescampbell
Sea Gull
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Who_Am_I
Paralysing perfectionism
Joined: Aug 28, 2005
Age: 24
Posts: 3354
Location: My body is in Brisbane and my mind is in the gutter. :D
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| Yupa wrote: | | Who_Am_I wrote: | | Yupa wrote: | | Who_Am_I wrote: | | Yupa wrote: | | Warsie wrote: | | Yupa wrote: |
He was a problem student. They had to do something and they'd probably already tried everything else. |
so it's okay to result to mainstream social BS: e.g. shaming and trying to getting him to fit the mold? LOL XD
EDIT: I saw this yesterday on 4chan's /b/. |
If it weren't for "mainstream social BS" we'd have people walking around wearing umbrella hats and polka-dot ties crapping in public and touching other people without permission (quite probably in very wrong places), just to name a few of the milder things that would be going on. |
The same way your avatar hurts the eyes of anyone who isn't a masochist.
What's wrong with umbrella hats and polka dot ties? They don't hurt anyone. |
They hurt the eyes of everyone who isn't a masochist |
How so? |
The same way your avatar hurts the eyes of anyone who isn't a masochist. |
You're the only one who's complained about it...
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srriv345
Velociraptor
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Age: 21
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| Just a quick note of factual clarification: Examples of Alex's "disturbing behaviors" seem to include spinning, hiding under tables, and eating paper/crayons. This is from Melissa Barton, and the school district has said nothing further. There is no indication whatsoever that Alex posed a danger to others. He needs help to better deal with school, but this has nothing to do with being a "disturbance" and everything to do with ostracizing people who are different. Again, this is kindergarten, and "disturbances" are to be expected. If a teacher can't handle that, then he or she probably shouldn't be teaching at all, and definitely shouldn't be teaching kids that young. I wonder how many other kids, special needs or not, have suffered because of her intolerance. |
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