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beef_bourito
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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 Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:21 am Post subject: |
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I own a manual car. i know this'll probably sound stupid to some of you but i like heel-and-toe braking when driving normally. i just wanted to learn at some point so i did, then got into the habit of doing it and now i do it all the time.
p.s. heel and toe is when you double clutch, rev match, and brake at the same time. so you're working two pedals with one foot. takes some practice but it's not that hard. |
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Fred54
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Age: 37
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Location: Montréal, QC
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| AspE wrote: | | It's easier to maximize mileage with a manual. You can put it in neutral and coast, |
No, actually it's better to just release the pedal and keep the gear engaged. A lot of new cars has DFCO which means Decelaration Fuel Cut Off.
If for instance you are at 50mph and release the gas pedal, the fuel is cut off until you reach a certain RPM like 1100 and then the fuel come again to avoid stall.
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Lightning88
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Age: 19
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Location: Indiana
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:17 am Post subject: |
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I've only driven two cars before. One is my car (an '05 Hyundai Accent) and the other one was a Ford Focus for driver's ed). Neither one of them had a stick, so I wouldn't know if I'm any good at it or not. In the meantime, I'm going to say no, but I'm not voting in the poll as it's not official until I actually do drive one.
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beef_bourito
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Age: 20
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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| Fred54 wrote: | | AspE wrote: | | It's easier to maximize mileage with a manual. You can put it in neutral and coast, |
No, actually it's better to just release the pedal and keep the gear engaged. A lot of new cars has DFCO which means Decelaration Fuel Cut Off.
If for instance you are at 50mph and release the gas pedal, the fuel is cut off until you reach a certain RPM like 1100 and then the fuel come again to avoid stall. |
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you can actually feel when it starts injecting fuel. mine comes on a bit at around 1500rpm and more at around 1000 or 1100rpm |
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Aspie_Chav
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Joined: Feb 07, 2006
Age: 35
Posts: 2137
Location: Croydon
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| beef_bourito wrote: | | Fred54 wrote: | | AspE wrote: | | It's easier to maximize mileage with a manual. You can put it in neutral and coast, |
No, actually it's better to just release the pedal and keep the gear engaged. A lot of new cars has DFCO which means Decelaration Fuel Cut Off.
If for instance you are at 50mph and release the gas pedal, the fuel is cut off until you reach a certain RPM like 1100 and then the fuel come again to avoid stall. |
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you can actually feel when it starts injecting fuel. mine comes on a bit at around 1500rpm and more at around 1000 or 1100rpm |
Technically it is true, especially on the freeway. However, driving in slow traffic a lower gear would use more petrol and a higher gear would tax the engine. So costing can be a good thing. |
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beef_bourito
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Aspie_Chav wrote: | | beef_bourito wrote: | | Fred54 wrote: | | AspE wrote: | | It's easier to maximize mileage with a manual. You can put it in neutral and coast, |
No, actually it's better to just release the pedal and keep the gear engaged. A lot of new cars has DFCO which means Decelaration Fuel Cut Off.
If for instance you are at 50mph and release the gas pedal, the fuel is cut off until you reach a certain RPM like 1100 and then the fuel come again to avoid stall. |
true
you can actually feel when it starts injecting fuel. mine comes on a bit at around 1500rpm and more at around 1000 or 1100rpm |
Technically it is true, especially on the freeway. However, driving in slow traffic a lower gear would use more petrol and a higher gear would tax the engine. So costing can be a good thing. |
I don't really see a situation where sticking it in neutral would be a more economical option. when you're coasting in neutral you're still burning fuel, whereas when you're in gear with your foot off the throttle it's not injecting anything. it would probably be better to just crack the throttle open a tiny bit to keep the speed constant. when you coast you're still decelerating so when you stick it back in gear you're going to have to accelerate back up to speed, which is less efficient than keeping a constant speed. |
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richie
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Age: 50
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Location: Lake Whoop-Dee-Doo, Pennsylvania
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I've used nothing but standard (manual) transmissions when I drove. Many a time on a very icy road I would not use my brakes
to slow down, I would simply down shift and use engine compression as my brake. I never skidded out of control, even in an emergency. But it looks like I won't be owning a car with gas prices being what they are. My preferred means of getting around
is a motorcycle.
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Fogman
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Age: 41
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Location: SC, USA
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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I actually prefer a stick shift on the floor, as manual transmissions are much more controllable, and inherantly less complex than an automatic transmission. --The cearning curve is a bit higher, but here's some of the stuff that is inherantly easier to do with a manual:
1.) You can start a car with a dead battery without jumper cables or other assistance.
2.) If your brakes fail, it is much easier to slow down, and perhaps even stop the car by downshifting.
3.) You can still drive even if one of your lower gears is missing, or if your clutch control is broken.
| tailfins1959 wrote: | I like "three on the tree" (on the steering column), I miss my three speed 1959 Biscayne. I only own auto transmission vehicles because of my wife.
Notice the clutch and shifter from a 1957 Chevy 210, a thing of beauty!
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Nice car! If it's yours, could I suggest this seeming travesty?
Remove the steering wheel and the Plastic shift knob. Run wire from the dashboard light circuit through the steering column, into the hub of the steering wheel, and additional wire through the Shift selector. Terminate these wires with Red LED's, one in the shift selector, and pehaps several large ones in the steering hub. Have exact replicas of both the steering wheel and the shift selector made from polished, clear Lucite. --For maximum effect with the steering wheel, use either chrome plated steel, or highly polished stainless steel steering wheel forming wire.
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Silver_Meteor
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Joined: Jul 11, 2007
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Location: North Kingstown, Rhode Island, USA
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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I am assuming you mean a car with a manual transmission as compared to an automatic transmission. Yes the car I drive has a stick shift with no problem
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