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Is there a link beween atheism/agnosticism and Asperger's?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skafather84 wrote:
there is as much of a link as there is to aspie males having large penises.

I thought there was definitely a link there Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really, no, but considering most Aspies are very intelligent and studies show that people who are more intelligent tend to be atheist or agnostic, the atheist/agnostic and Asperger's groups may overlap.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zonder wrote:
I might be wrong, but I see aspies as desiring a definite framework that gives structure to relating to the world. For some that is logic. For some it is religion. For some it is science. Once that framework is set it can be very hard to change. Just depends on the person, their temperament, their background, what they have been exposed to in life, etc.

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You might be onto something there. Normally when I'm talking to people who I guess are mostly NT, tend to be more open in terms of beliefs and non beliefs. I don't really relate to many of the posts regarding labels of either and or.

I say I am agnostic but that doesn't mean I'm an atheist. I've had other aspies on forums tell me that if I'm agnostic then I deny the existance of god.

For the record, I do not deny the existance of god but the questioning of what god is being used in the terms of how people view what god "should" be. I notice too many aspies relate belief of anything to Religion or Christianity when really there are many more beliefs than that. Some are not even constructed of a system such as the term Higher Power I learned about in AA meetings. Higher Power is what your idea of god is and it doesn't necessarily have to be a deity which confused me. I call it spirituallity myself and it's amazing how many assume that spirituality is another form of Christianity in these posts.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Delirium wrote:
Not really, no, but considering most Aspies are very intelligent and studies show that people who are more intelligent tend to be atheist or agnostic, the atheist/agnostic and Asperger's groups may overlap.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

greenblue wrote:
Izaak wrote:
To OP:

The confusion is probably to do with the misuse of the word logical for analytical.

Aspies tend to be analytical and spot patterns quite well (see Temple Grandin and Baron-Cohen research for more about that.)

Analytical way of thinking can be naturally gained. Logic and logical thinking has to be learned and actively pursued in any thought task. And it is something all too many people default on (religious and atheists alike.)

Good point, yes, probably there lies the confusion, which commonly aspies are said to have a logical mind, but rather an analytical mind.

Well, the thing that made me wonder about it actually was the claim that most aspies are left-brained while things related to religion are considered to be right-brained, so I thought of the conexion, depending if a person is more left-brained than right-brained.

I also wondered if an autistic (classical autism) person, depending on the spectrum, from high to low functioning, would be able to make sense of what is teached in religion.


To be strictly correct a belief in a "higher power" is not either hemisphere-brained. It takes the suspension of thinking in order to maintain a belief in non-reality. Whether it be the christian type god or a spirituality as described in this thread by MissConstrue.

There are plenty of rationalisations of why people believe in mysticism... none of them are brain based*.

*EDIT: none of them are the result of logical processes originating and managed in the brain.
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