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velodog
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| If I could change it I would not do so. The good Dr comes across as a good human being, not just a good researcher. He should be remembered and honored for his work. Part of me wishes it could have been translated into English and brought into common knowledge before it was. Part of me thinks it would not have benefitted me to know growing up. |
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slowmutant
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I assume you're paying homage to the late Dr. Hans Asperger?
No one here actually knew the man. How do you know he wasn't an a$$hole? Brilliance and congeniality are not necessarily comorbid. |
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| slowmutant wrote: | I assume you're paying homage to the late Dr. Hans Asperger?
No one here actually knew the man. How do you know he wasn't an a$$hole? Brilliance and congeniality are not necessarily comorbid. |
"We are convinced then, that Autistic people have their place in the organism of the social community. They fullfil their role well, perhaps better than anyone else could,and we are talking of people who as children had the greatest difficulties and caused untold worries to their caregivers."
Is there a particular reason that you choose to be a contrarian instead of doing a couple of minutes of search to see what is written of the man? Contrast how he treated his charges versus John Watsons treatment of baby Albert in the 1920s. That was a man who was a brilliant researcher but a piss poor excuse for a human being.
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slowmutant
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I don't understand why you're calling me an asshole. Did I insult you somehow? I merely stated that brilliance and congeniality don't always occur together. It was not a specific reference to Dr. Asperger or to anyone else in particular.
Just an observation.
I wonder what Mozart was like off the record. |
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velodog
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| I edited it for you slowmutant, the information is easy to find. |
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Assuming that Asperger's Syndrome originates from Neurological differences:
Inherited Neurological Variance or INV for short.
Keep in mind that a new "label" can become another reference used for The Other by The One who fears The Other (i.e. a new name doesn't remove any stigmatisation by society). Encouraging The One to accept another as Equal To The One is more important than changing a label (and consequently makes the old label one of emancipation).
I was looking at using latin, and came up with this motto by combining words:
Revgua Comprartior Cogsequensa Culdo
Revgua from:
lingua: speech
revera: in reality
Comprartior from:
congregatio: society/socialisation
compatior: empathy
comperio: find out by learning
Cogsequensa from:
sensa: thoughts, teachings
cogito: think, ponder, plan
consequens: according to reason, logic
Culdo from:
Valde: intensely
Curo: give attention to
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velodog
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| Ahaseurus2000 wrote: | | Keep in mind that a new "label" can become another reference used for The Other by The One who fears The Other (i.e. a new name doesn't remove any stigmatisation by society). Encouraging The One to accept another as Equal To The One is more important than changing a label (and consequently makes the old label one of emancipation). |
Excellent post. |
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Danielismyname
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Its [Asperger's] name has done good, to move Autism back to how it first started and remove many of the erroneous stereotypes (i.e., someone with Autism can't talk at all as an adult! Someone with Autism isn't interested in people! Etcetera); if people wish to keep it for its namesake, and to explain 1/4 of the spectrum, just as Autistic Disorder explains the other 1/4, it'd be fair to change Autistic Disorder to Kanner's Disorder (if Hans has his name, Leo should have his). In other words, leave it how it is now, but just change Autism to Kanner's Disorder.
Kanner's:
Socially aloof/passive as an adult, and a greater chance to have speech and cognitive delays (a total lack of in the latter two is rare compared to just a delay in). Plus some more repetitive behaviours and sensory problems.
Asperger's:
Socially passive as a child, to passive/odd and active/stilted and overly formal as an adult; less chance of speech and cognitive delays, but it's possible, plus the repetitive behaviour is manifested by an all-encompassing interest for the most part. |
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| spudnik wrote: | spazburgers
differently abled
socially befuddled |
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| *quietly tiptoes out of the thread* |
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veruniel
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| Lene wrote: | | Social Dyslexia |
Brilliant! |
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That condition Steven Hawking has is called "Lou Gehrig's Disease" after the famous baseball player who had it.
How about "Einstein Syndrome."
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Danielismyname
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| If that's the case, I nominate "Hitler Syndrome". |
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AS is okay on it's own, actually. I even thought of an senerio:
"I have AS."
"What's that mean?"
"That I'm not a complete ASS like you."
Yeah, inappropriate, I know. Laugh anyway. |
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How about...Autism Trial Version? Or Autism: The Demo.
Yes, it's a shameless rip-off from Spudnik's post, I know. 
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