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LePetitPrince
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^^you're most welcomed.
PS:I suggest to wink less frequently because pakled might get jealous. |
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TutuFairy
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Actually, I quite like the winky face and plan on using it much more in the future.
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jonathan79
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Born and raised on Kauai until the age of 23, then lived on the Big Island until I was 26. Now living on the mainland. There is some truth to the poster's posts, but, for the most part, they are subjective experiences colored by an individual perspective. My experience of Kauai was the complete opposite of the original post. He is not lying, he is only stating his personal experience. Mine just happened to be the opposite.
I go back often, I hang out with lifelong friends who will never leave the island, and I still do not feel like I belong. There are no universal rules to life, attraction, or love (perhaps that is the only rule; that there will be differences no matter what. A paradox indeed). There are only stories which happen within the entire spectrum of experiences. No matter where you go, there can be no absolutes. You will find the range of human experiences within any community. The lonely person; the madman; the overachiever; the slacker; the ladies man; the loner; the guy without looks who gets all the ladies; the guy with looks who cannot land a date; and on and on; forever and ever.
We can only perceive life as WE experience it. We can "imagine" the life of others, but we can never truly understand their subjective experiences. All we can do is be aware that their are different life experiences that we can never completely understand.
"The world of the happy man is different from the world of the unhappy man"
~Wittgenstein
For me, happy and attractive can be interchanged; along with another of different adjectives. Looks, personality, money, etc. The only constant is that the un-attractive/unhappy man will surely experience a completely different life than the attractive/happy man.
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LePetitPrince
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| jonathan79 wrote: | Born and raised on Kauai until the age of 23, then lived on the Big Island until I was 26. Now living on the mainland. There is some truth to the poster's posts, but, for the most part, they are subjective experiences colored by an individual perspective. My experience of Kauai was the complete opposite of the original post. He is not lying, he is only stating his personal experience. Mine just happened to be the opposite.
I go back often, I hang out with lifelong friends who will never leave the island, and I still do not feel like I belong. There are no universal rules to life, attraction, or love (perhaps that is the only rule; that there will be differences no matter what. A paradox indeed). There are only stories which happen within the entire spectrum of experiences. No matter where you go, there can be no absolutes. You will find the range of human experiences within any community. The lonely person; the madman; the overachiever; the slacker; the ladies man; the loner; the guy without looks who gets all the ladies; the guy with looks who cannot land a date; and on and on; forever and ever.
We can only perceive life as WE experience it. We can "imagine" the life of others, but we can never truly understand their subjective experiences. All we can do is be aware that their are different life experiences that we can never completely understand.
"The world of the happy man is different from the world of the unhappy man"
~Wittgenstein
For me, happy and attractive can be interchanged; along with another of different adjectives. Looks, personality, money, etc. The only constant is that the un-attractive/unhappy man will surely experience a completely different life than the attractive/happy man. |
This is the smartest post ever. |
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Haliphron
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| I guess if you have a small Dating Pool than you cant always afford to be picky. I have no doubt polynesian culture is a LOT more direct than the culture of the US Mainland. As far as materialism goes the isles of the pacific dont really have a lot of resources and material goods to go around. But from what here, life on the pacific islands is VERY rough and emotionally stressful and quite often violent; but I guess thats in places like Samoa and Fiji rather than Hawaii . Seeing the OP makes me wish I were a cultural anthropologist cos Im very curious WHY it is that in isolated islands with limited resources and limited space that more complex social rules and protocols are not present. WHAT is it about continental Canamerican culture that makes the dating game more difficult here? Sounds to me like Hawaiians in general are just A LOT more social then we Haole's on the mainland. |
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TutuFairy
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Maybe because on isolated islands there is a limited amount of space and people so you can't afford to be picky, but on the mainland, there is alot more room and alot more people so you have more options and can afford to be a little pickier...
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Diamond_Head
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| Quote: | Born and raised on Kauai until the age of 23, then lived on the Big Island until I was 26. Now living on the mainland. There is some truth to the poster's posts, but, for the most part, they are subjective experiences colored by an individual perspective. My experience of Kauai was the complete opposite of the original post. He is not lying, he is only stating his personal experience. Mine just happened to be the opposite.
I go back often, I hang out with lifelong friends who will never leave the island, and I still do not feel like I belong. There are no universal rules to life, attraction, or love (perhaps that is the only rule; that there will be differences no matter what. A paradox indeed). There are only stories which happen within the entire spectrum of experiences. No matter where you go, there can be no absolutes. You will find the range of human experiences within any community. The lonely person; the madman; the overachiever; the slacker; the ladies man; the loner; the guy without looks who gets all the ladies; the guy with looks who cannot land a date; and on and on; forever and ever. |
No doubt of that. Every individual will have a different experience, there's no solid rule for the way things work 100 per cent of the time.
I never said it was some kind of paradise on earth. Even though I always loved it, I've seen some people on Kauai occasionally get on the bad side of that whole "Mokes vs. Haoles" thing, especially if you happen to be more White Anglo-Saxon looking and in an area where all the Moke Braddas hang out (even though any conflict at all tends to be a pretty rare occurence). As such, these individuals can sometimes be very eager to leave the islands and get back to the mainland. Although, what is truly hilarious is that mostly everyone is so integrated with Asian blood by this point, seeing a three quarters-Asian and one quarter-Polynesian guy calling a white guy a "Haole" is pretty funny, not to mention ironic.
But that conflict is minimized in itself, and infrequent as well. You have a much larger chance of meeting with conflict when walking around at night in almost any major city on the mainland, or at least Los Angeles and Miami from my experience.
Obviously in any location, some people will love it there, some people will hate it. My original post was to reflect the fact that dating, at least from my perspective and many others I know, seems to be less complicated and more straightforward in that one specific locale.
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ToadOfSteel
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| Haliphron wrote: | | WHAT is it about continental Canamerican culture that makes the dating game more difficult here? Sounds to me like Hawaiians in general are just A LOT more social then we Haole's on the mainland. |
It's because people on the mainland are so egocentric... my own level of egocentrism sickens even me, and yet I can't stop it... Since everyone only thinks about themselves, people don't think about getting a partner in terms of forming a relationship, but only in how they themselves will benefit from it (with little or no regard to the partner)...
And they say we aspies have problems understanding the needs of others... |
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TutuFairy
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Um, not everybody is like that.
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LePetitPrince
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| Diamond_Head wrote: | | Quote: | Born and raised on Kauai until the age of 23, then lived on the Big Island until I was 26. Now living on the mainland. There is some truth to the poster's posts, but, for the most part, they are subjective experiences colored by an individual perspective. My experience of Kauai was the complete opposite of the original post. He is not lying, he is only stating his personal experience. Mine just happened to be the opposite.
I go back often, I hang out with lifelong friends who will never leave the island, and I still do not feel like I belong. There are no universal rules to life, attraction, or love (perhaps that is the only rule; that there will be differences no matter what. A paradox indeed). There are only stories which happen within the entire spectrum of experiences. No matter where you go, there can be no absolutes. You will find the range of human experiences within any community. The lonely person; the madman; the overachiever; the slacker; the ladies man; the loner; the guy without looks who gets all the ladies; the guy with looks who cannot land a date; and on and on; forever and ever. |
No doubt of that. Every individual will have a different experience, there's no solid rule for the way things work 100 per cent of the time.
I never said it was some kind of paradise on earth. Even though I always loved it, I've seen some people on Kauai occasionally get on the bad side of that whole "Mokes vs. Haoles" thing, especially if you happen to be more White Anglo-Saxon looking and in an area where all the Moke Braddas hang out (even though any conflict at all tends to be a pretty rare occurence). As such, these individuals can sometimes be very eager to leave the islands and get back to the mainland. Although, what is truly hilarious is that mostly everyone is so integrated with Asian blood by this point, seeing a three quarters-Asian and one quarter-Polynesian guy calling a white guy a "Haole" is pretty funny, not to mention ironic.
But that conflict is minimized in itself, and infrequent as well. You have a much larger chance of meeting with conflict when walking around at night in almost any major city on the mainland, or at least Los Angeles and Miami from my experience.
Obviously in any location, some people will love it there, some people will hate it. My original post was to reflect the fact that dating, at least from my perspective and many others I know, seems to be less complicated and more straightforward in that one specific locale. |
Hehehe the Diamond guy is withdrawing little by little.
| Quote: | | I never said it was some kind of paradise on earth |
Not true, you were trying to picture us that anyone in your country can easily find love since there's no complicated rules of attraction and girls of your country are so easygoing with guys and so on and so on. Yet, your fellow citizen disapproved your story.
Like jonathan said, what you were talking about is YOUR personal experience , maybe you never found a problem in dating because you were lucky (despite that I don't believe in luck but only in cause and effect) or most probably because you are either attractive or smooth talker or successful sport guy... I dunno but surely is not exclusively due to the location you live in. Of course, a guy who don't have the same traits would have a totally different experience.
jonathan79 has proved that your preaching is no more than an 'Idealistic garbage' (by Dracula the wise man) and your thread was obviously kinda of personal boasting about yourself and an unreal boasting about your country,yet jonathan proved that not everyone can live like you there.
jonathan79 , thank you for putting an end to this mockery and for exposing the real truth of attraction in your country.
Regards,
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TutuFairy
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| LePetitPrince wrote: | | Diamond_Head wrote: | | Quote: | Born and raised on Kauai until the age of 23, then lived on the Big Island until I was 26. Now living on the mainland. There is some truth to the poster's posts, but, for the most part, they are subjective experiences colored by an individual perspective. My experience of Kauai was the complete opposite of the original post. He is not lying, he is only stating his personal experience. Mine just happened to be the opposite.
I go back often, I hang out with lifelong friends who will never leave the island, and I still do not feel like I belong. There are no universal rules to life, attraction, or love (perhaps that is the only rule; that there will be differences no matter what. A paradox indeed). There are only stories which happen within the entire spectrum of experiences. No matter where you go, there can be no absolutes. You will find the range of human experiences within any community. The lonely person; the madman; the overachiever; the slacker; the ladies man; the loner; the guy without looks who gets all the ladies; the guy with looks who cannot land a date; and on and on; forever and ever. |
No doubt of that. Every individual will have a different experience, there's no solid rule for the way things work 100 per cent of the time.
I never said it was some kind of paradise on earth. Even though I always loved it, I've seen some people on Kauai occasionally get on the bad side of that whole "Mokes vs. Haoles" thing, especially if you happen to be more White Anglo-Saxon looking and in an area where all the Moke Braddas hang out (even though any conflict at all tends to be a pretty rare occurence). As such, these individuals can sometimes be very eager to leave the islands and get back to the mainland. Although, what is truly hilarious is that mostly everyone is so integrated with Asian blood by this point, seeing a three quarters-Asian and one quarter-Polynesian guy calling a white guy a "Haole" is pretty funny, not to mention ironic.
But that conflict is minimized in itself, and infrequent as well. You have a much larger chance of meeting with conflict when walking around at night in almost any major city on the mainland, or at least Los Angeles and Miami from my experience.
Obviously in any location, some people will love it there, some people will hate it. My original post was to reflect the fact that dating, at least from my perspective and many others I know, seems to be less complicated and more straightforward in that one specific locale. |
Hehehe the Diamond guy is withdrawing little by little.
| Quote: | | I never said it was some kind of paradise on earth |
Not true, you were trying to picture us that anyone in your country can easily find love since there's no complicated rules of attraction and girls of your country are so easygoing with guys and so on and so on. Yet, your fellow citizen disapproved your story.
Like jonathan said, what you were talking about is YOUR personal experience , maybe you never found a problem in dating because you were lucky (despite that I don't believe in luck but only in cause and effect) or most probably because you are either attractive or smooth talker or successful sport guy... I dunno but surely is not exclusively due to the location you live in. Of course, a guy who don't have the same traits would have a totally different experience.
jonathan79 has proved that your preaching is no more than an 'Idealistic garbage' (by Dracula the wise man) and your thread was obviously kinda of personal boasting about yourself and an unreal boasting about your country,yet jonathan proved that not everyone can live like you there.
jonathan79 , thank you for putting an end to this mockery and for exposing the real truth of attraction in your country.
Regards,
/Thread's point expired due to Diamond_Head's defeat. |
He wasn't boasting or lying. He was simply stating the fact that by what he's seen, people tend to be more straight-forward about dating where he's from. Why is it that Jonathan79's words mean more than Diamond Head's? They are equals. Why would Jonathan's words overrule Diamond Head's? What makes you think that one guy's experiences are more credible than another's, other than the fact that you just like his story better? You'd have no way of knowing what it's really like, because it's all based on opinions. Is it possible that you just want Diamond Head to be wrong?
P.S. Nothing about this has been any form of "mockery". I understand you might have a hard time with some English, but if you are going to try to use someone's language against them, you should probably at least use it correctly.
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Diamond_Head
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| Quote: | Hehehe the Diamond guy is withdrawing little by little
jonathan79 , thank you for putting an end to this mockery and for exposing the real truth of attraction in your country. |
lol, for some reason, you are driven to whine and complain about whatever I write. Does that seem like a masculine or attractive quality to you? To me, you sound like a little girl. 
If anyone has ever sounded bitter, it's you. Maybe you should try being open to other ideas, instead of lashing out at anyone who'se had a different experience than you have. Bitterness isn't going to make people attracted to you, whatever the qualities may be that you think define attraction.
Which brings me to my next point- until you, I've never heard of someone so insanely obsessed with proving what constitutes "attraction" and "masculinity"- height, weight, etc etc etc, ad naseum.
Has it ever occurred to you that maybe a masculine quality is knowing when to let something go, without whining about it on and on forever? Whenever I read anything you write, I just laugh it off, because I realize that nothing you say matters, and this is only an internet forum.
And by the way- HAWAII IS PART OF THE UNITED STATES. It's not a separate country. Or were you not aware of this? I don't know why I'm even wasting time arguing with someone who can't quite grasp the fact that Hawaii is actually not a separate country.
| Quote: | | maybe you never found a problem in dating because you were lucky (despite that I don't believe in luck but only in cause and effect) or most probably because you are either attractive or smooth talker or successful sport guy... I dunno but surely is not exclusively due to the location you live in |
Maybe another reason is that I don't feel the urge to moan and whine and cry endlessly when someone disagrees with me, and I feel secure enough to not take a "my way! it has to be my way!!" type mentality in an argument. Just a thought 
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This is an internet forum. Not real face-to-face life. You have no power over anyone, and you aren't defeating anyone. Come to terms with reality. I know it might be hard for you. |
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LePetitPrince
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Diamond_Head wrote: | | Quote: | Hehehe the Diamond guy is withdrawing little by little
jonathan79 , thank you for putting an end to this mockery and for exposing the real truth of attraction in your country. |
lol, for some reason, you are driven to whine and complain about whatever I write. Does that seem like a masculine or attractive quality to you? To me, you sound like a little girl.
If anyone has ever sounded bitter, it's you. Maybe you should try being open to other ideas, instead of lashing out at anyone who'se had a different experience than you have. Bitterness isn't going to make people attracted to you, whatever the qualities may be that you think define attraction.
Which brings me to my next point- until you, I've never heard of someone so insanely obsessed with proving what constitutes "attraction" and "masculinity"- height, weight, etc etc etc, ad naseum.
Has it ever occurred to you that maybe a masculine quality is knowing when to let something go, without whining about it on and on forever? Whenever I read anything you write, I just laugh it off, because I realize that nothing you say matters, and this is only an internet forum.
And by the way- HAWAII IS PART OF THE UNITED STATES. It's not a separate country. Or were you not aware of this? I don't know why I'm even wasting time arguing with someone who can't quite grasp the fact that Hawaii is actually not a separate country.
| Quote: | | maybe you never found a problem in dating because you were lucky (despite that I don't believe in luck but only in cause and effect) or most probably because you are either attractive or smooth talker or successful sport guy... I dunno but surely is not exclusively due to the location you live in |
Maybe another reason is that I don't feel the urge to moan and whine and cry endlessly when someone disagrees with me, and I feel secure enough to not take a "my way! it has to be my way!!" type mentality in an argument. Just a thought
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This is an internet forum. Not real face-to-face life. You have no power over anyone, and you aren't defeating anyone. Come to terms with reality. I know it might be hard for you. |
Country can be used to describe a town outside the main cities. Yes, I am aware it's a part of the US.
Anyways, what you are saying doesn't matter , this is a internet forum, you have your real life and I have mine. Stop repeating this sentence over and over , I don't really care what you are babbling either.
| Quote: | He wasn't boasting or lying. He was simply stating the fact that by what he's seen, people tend to be more straight-forward about dating where he's from. Why is it that Jonathan79's words mean more than Diamond Head's? They are equals. Why would Jonathan's words overrule Diamond Head's? What makes you think that one guy's experiences are more credible than another's, other than the fact that you just like his story better? You'd have no way of knowing what it's really like, because it's all based on opinions. Is it possible that you just want Diamond Head to be wrong?
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He wasn't lying at all, he was just telling his experience and he made it sound like that's how everyone in his state are living..there's some lying in this tho. He wasn't boasting? I doubt it.
| Quote: | P.S. Nothing about this has been any form of "mockery". I understand you might have a hard time with some English, but if you are going to try to use someone's language against them, you should probably at least use it correctly.
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It's a mockery because he was disrespecting the people's intelligence here,there's no such simple paradise on earth .....it might be a paradise for some people but not for all people who live there, it's the case of everywhere else....and Jonathan proved that, that's why Diamond is so pissed off.
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Woah..is this the PPR Thread?
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Diamond_Head
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| Quote: | | Anyways, what you are saying doesn't matter , this is a internet forum, you have your real life and I have mine. |
Good. Since we're agreed, stop whining and complaining, get over it, and do something else besides dragging out points endlessly for no purpose on an internet thread. |
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