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Do you think America is a "Nation of Whiners"
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anarchy reigned in New Orleans for too long before any proper rescue/assistance effort was made.


Wait, you mean pre-katrina right?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oscuria wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
Anarchy reigned in New Orleans for too long before any proper rescue/assistance effort was made.


Wait, you mean pre-katrina right? Because Katrina solved that mess.


Wha--?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quatermass wrote:
oscuria wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
Anarchy reigned in New Orleans for too long before any proper rescue/assistance effort was made.


Wait, you mean pre-katrina right? Because Katrina solved that mess.


Wha--?


Ha, you were too quick. I was editing.

New Orleans, in my opinion, wasn't a great place before, during, nor after.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How many more before it actually penetrates into the American subconscious to actually help thy neighbour? I mean in general, not in specifics. I mean, Katrina is a case in point. Anarchy reigned in New Orleans for too long before any proper rescue/assistance effort was made.

And there you have it... Our leaders saw the people of New Orleans as "whiners."
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberman wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
How many more before it actually penetrates into the American subconscious to actually help thy neighbour? I mean in general, not in specifics. I mean, Katrina is a case in point. Anarchy reigned in New Orleans for too long before any proper rescue/assistance effort was made.

And there you have it... Our leaders saw the people of New Orleans as "whiners."


Go figure.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberman wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
How many more before it actually penetrates into the American subconscious to actually help thy neighbour? I mean in general, not in specifics. I mean, Katrina is a case in point. Anarchy reigned in New Orleans for too long before any proper rescue/assistance effort was made.

And there you have it... Our leaders saw the people of New Orleans as "whiners."


No, I'm sure some in government saw thems criminals.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oscuria wrote:
Cyberman wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
How many more before it actually penetrates into the American subconscious to actually help thy neighbour? I mean in general, not in specifics. I mean, Katrina is a case in point. Anarchy reigned in New Orleans for too long before any proper rescue/assistance effort was made.

And there you have it... Our leaders saw the people of New Orleans as "whiners."


No, I'm sure some in government saw thems criminals.

After all, the ENTIRE population of a largely African-American city MUST be criminals, right? To Hell with ni**ers.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberman wrote:
oscuria wrote:
Cyberman wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
How many more before it actually penetrates into the American subconscious to actually help thy neighbour? I mean in general, not in specifics. I mean, Katrina is a case in point. Anarchy reigned in New Orleans for too long before any proper rescue/assistance effort was made.

And there you have it... Our leaders saw the people of New Orleans as "whiners."


No, I'm sure some in government saw thems criminals.

After all, the ENTIRE population of a largely African-American city MUST be criminals, right? To Hell with ni**ers.


Another possibility is that they hate jazz. Or cajuns.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberman wrote:
oscuria wrote:
Cyberman wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
How many more before it actually penetrates into the American subconscious to actually help thy neighbour? I mean in general, not in specifics. I mean, Katrina is a case in point. Anarchy reigned in New Orleans for too long before any proper rescue/assistance effort was made.

And there you have it... Our leaders saw the people of New Orleans as "whiners."


No, I'm sure some in government saw thems criminals.

After all, the ENTIRE population of a largely African-American city MUST be criminals, right?.


Well, no. Because many of them were criminals.



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, no. Because many of them were criminals.



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That pretty much sums up America in total. If you're black, you're committing a crime. If you're whitey, you're struggling to survive.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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New Orleans, in my opinion, wasn't a great place before, during, nor after.


Sorry, O, but I have to say you were having a flare up of cranio-rectal syndrome syndrome when you wrote that. I have a friend who lived in New Orleans through Katrina. He and his wife were gainfully employed, contributing to society in many ways, and raising a family. They actually liked it there - sure, there was more poverty and crime than many other cities, but it was a place they called home. They stayed through the hurricane because they were involved in providing essential services. They and their child were exposed to a slice of hell that was replicated a million times over. But I guess they can be dismissed as just another band of whining criminals?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everchanging wrote:
To see a true "Nation of whiners" you have to see the UK.

The US isn't even close.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

monty wrote:
oscuria wrote:

New Orleans, in my opinion, wasn't a great place before, during, nor after.


Sorry, O, but I have to say you were having a flare up of cranio-rectal syndrome syndrome when you wrote that. I have a friend who lived in New Orleans through Katrina. He and his wife were gainfully employed, contributing to society in many ways, and raising a family. They actually liked it there - sure, there was more poverty and crime than many other cities, but it was a place they called home. They stayed through the hurricane because they were involved in providing essential services. They and their child were exposed to a slice of hell that was replicated a million times over. But I guess they can be dismissed as just another band of whining criminals?


Well, was New Orleans populated only by this family ? The saints march everywhere, but when they're gone not even their shadow remains.


In any sense, I do consider a great deal of people to whine. We do whine. We have a higher standard of living than many millions of people, yet we still cry. I don't agree with Gramm because I consider most politicans to be even worse whiners and materialists, however who in the west does not whine? The west consume the most, yet whines that it has nothing.

Lord forbid the air conditioning goes out. Lord forbid that steak doesn't come out well. Lord forbid the BMW doesn't run out of gas. Lord forbid the gardener doesn't come to cut the lawn.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That pretty much sums up America in total. If you're black, you're committing a crime. If you're whitey, you're struggling to survive.


Australia has something similar, no?

The dreaded Lebanese. Surprised
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oscuria wrote:
Quatermass wrote:


That pretty much sums up America in total. If you're black, you're committing a crime. If you're whitey, you're struggling to survive.


Australia has something similar, no?

The dreaded Lebanese. Surprised


Actually, I thought it was more towards the Aboriginals, although I think the average socioeconomic status of an Aboriginal is even lower than an African-American in the US. It's a problem that either gets swept under the carpet, or is dealt with in ways that go wrong.
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