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Do you have Savant-like Abilities?
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Yes, I'm an Aspie.
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Yes, I'm an Autie.
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2ukenkerl
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I may never know. One guy today said, as MANY do, that he had no doubt I could do anything. In the context that he was speaking of, he is probably right! Like Age1600, I don't consider that savant, but I could probably name THOUSANDS that couldn't do it.

I can now do a number of math related things better than most, but certainly NOT savant level. 8-(

ImMelody,

Supposedly, less than 5% of adults have "photographic" memories. I put that in quotes because apparently most LIE, and the definition is not that clear. By their definition, I certainly have photographic quality memories, but that isn't saying much.

So less than 2% may REALLY have photographic memories. Some scientists don't even think it is possible!

Still, it isn't supposd to be that unusual for Autistic people. And, while I speak about how bad my memory is, I DO know a LOT about a LOT of things. And Some things I learn QUICK! I just wish I knew how to learn everything that fast.

I USED to be able to read faster, but I can do ok. I have always been able to scan pretty fast. My worst problem right now is that I can read faster than I can remember. That is ok for scanning, but not for regular reading. 8-(
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2ukenkerl wrote:
Supposedly, less than 5% of adults have "photographic" memories. I put that in quotes because apparently most LIE, and the definition is not that clear. By their definition, I certainly have photographic quality memories, but that isn't saying much.


I once talked to someone who I think either lied or deluded themselves about their memory being photographic. My memory has problems, but I was able to clearly remember things that they did not remember. Their response was to go into denial about it -- anything they didn't remember, didn't happen, and that was that, and I was the one with the bad memory (even though my memory actually matched several other people's and theirs didn't).
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I'm a scientific genius... unfortunately - it's a lonely life, lonelier even than typical Aspies. That's just one more thing seperating me from everybody and everything else. Still, I'd be lying if I didn't say I exploited my talents...

Who wants to know Unifying Theory...? Any takers? Seriously, I have it sitting right here. No joke...
It was so... easy! So incredibly easy! How the HELL did Einstein miss this!?
Of course, he did make several big mistakes with his so-called "special theory of relativity"...

Think that's great knowing all this? Well, it isn't. I've yet to meet anybody else who can even begin to understand the true depth of it... of any of it! Beyond that even, most people can't even conceive of anything beyond such - if even these concepts enter their minds at all!
It's not a fun life.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've an old neighbor friend that perfoms astronomical calculations for fun, has nearly every period of civilized history mapped in his brain, and writes music, classical music. His IQ is said to be at the "genius" level, tho I never have confirmed this. He's most likely aspie, and I'll see if I can get him on here. He's quite high strung, but a vast storehouse of information resides in his skull.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine are mild at best...and barely worth mentioning if they even count... Rolling Eyes ...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anbuend wrote:
2ukenkerl wrote:
Supposedly, less than 5% of adults have "photographic" memories. I put that in quotes because apparently most LIE, and the definition is not that clear. By their definition, I certainly have photographic quality memories, but that isn't saying much.


I once talked to someone who I think either lied or deluded themselves about their memory being photographic. My memory has problems, but I was able to clearly remember things that they did not remember. Their response was to go into denial about it -- anything they didn't remember, didn't happen, and that was that, and I was the one with the bad memory (even though my memory actually matched several other people's and theirs didn't).


SAME HERE! What I used to consider photographic memory to be was 2 things:

a.
1. You could effectively take a mental picture that had a quality where you could describe any detail QUICKLY.
2. You could remember it for a VERY long time.

I thought my memory WASN'T photographic because:

b.
1. The memory is obscured, may lack detail, and it is now often not so quick.
2. I can't always remember so long.

In fairness to myself though, I HAVE had a taste of a.! ALSO, I may sometimes give a blow by blow description of what transpired YEARS, or DECADES, ago only SECONDS after saying I didn't know it happened, so I know it is POSSIBLE.

I TESTED the last person IIRC, that said she has a photographic memory, and said she used THAT to remember my name! What was SHE like?

c.
1. She had NO apparent visual ability!
2. She obviously didn't remember so long.

She ACTUALLY DARED to tell me she saw it on my badge, which she remembered perfectly, but she failed to describe a VERY obvious feature in it. Someone that really saw it would have remembered that.

Besides, EVERYONE seems to know what my name is. I guess they must just talk about me a lot.

I guess EVERYONE wants to think they have a great memory, etc...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to hear (read) the unifying theory, try me I ove a chalenge, I feel that if I wanted to I could become obsessed with something and have complete concentration on it. It is only that I am afraid of putting that much on something, it kind of hurts and can feel like I am repeatedly going over facts in my head, it can feel like you are going nuts. Have any of you been almost unable of thinking of something else and being unable to sleep, this happened a lot to me when I did an accounting assignment.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sublyme wrote:

Another ability I have is to always know what time it is, almost to the minute. It's like I have a clock inside my head...this freaks people out. I don't know where that comes from.


I was going to bring that up. When I wake up in the 'morning' I know what time it is, despite not having visible clocks(and my window is blocked off from light).

Another example is if I microwave something. I will put it in, start it and walk away. I somehow get up and walk back just as its ending.

I eat by internal clock. At 11 O'clock I will be eating a meal that I started preparing instinctually, and I do it again at 4pm. I have no idea why then because everyone else in my family eats at socially conventional times. The odd thing is that Its always done within minutes of those times, regardless of what I prepare. If I cook something that takes longer I have invariably started it earlier without a thought.

I'm never late for appointments. Its been remarked upon by the social workers that gained me my diagnosis. I dont speed when I drive. I dont run lights. Somehow I just arrange my time properly, which is very odd because I have terrible organization skills!

Thats the closest I get to a minor splinter skill.

Other than that I have an uncommon knack for words, evident throughout my school years, and though I dropped out of high school early, and I am really not that well read, I scored 49 on that freerice site. My first visit was 48, so thats probably a good indication of my natural level. Undoubtably that will get higher, but thats more to do with memorization.

I challenged a case worker to try the site. Shes university level educated and I am curious as to how well she did.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I often get back to the microwave just in time, I like to make a show of it by spinning throwing cutlery in the air and catching it, I have a tendency of doing things in a proper time like just in time.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2ukenkerl wrote:
SAME HERE! What I used to consider photographic memory to be was 2 things:

a.
1. You could effectively take a mental picture that had a quality where you could describe any detail QUICKLY.
2. You could remember it for a VERY long time.

I thought my memory WASN'T photographic because:

b.
1. The memory is obscured, may lack detail, and it is now often not so quick.
2. I can't always remember so long.


These definitions are why I believe some people (like me) have a semi-photographic memory. I can't just turn it on and off, so sometimes I don't remember things. But when in moments of conversation, I can re-view the whole experience and every word said, and everything that was physically around. Basically, I can give you a whole 360 view of what was in the room, plus say what happened. I used to be able to do the same with books, but honestly, I don't read enough now to know if it's still true.

But somehow, I have a terrible time remembering names and dates. I'm horrible when it comes to knowing what time it is.. Sometimes hours can pass and I feel like it's only 30 minutes later. And I'm terrible at remembering 10 digit phone numbers.. Luckily, where I live, they haven't switched over to using area code every time you call someone. 7 digits, easy peasy, but when you add those 3 extra, my mind just crumbles. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuzzy wrote:
Sublyme wrote:

Another ability I have is to always know what time it is, almost to the minute. It's like I have a clock inside my head...this freaks people out. I don't know where that comes from.


I was going to bring that up. When I wake up in the 'morning' I know what time it is, despite not having visible clocks(and my window is blocked off from light


Actually, most people have this ability - even NTs. Humans have an internal clock and when asked, can usually guess what time it is to within a half hour. This 'sense of time' can be disturbed, though, by locking one's self in a room where there is no sunlight for several days at a stretch, or it can be messed up after taking a long flight (jet lag). When our internal clocks are 'off kilter' we often feel sick (headache/nauseous/sleepy) or just 'out of sorts' until we rest and expose ourselves to outdoor light for a day or two. It's an instinctual thing.

As for 'savant' abilities, I ouldn't say I'm a savant when it comes to anything. I have some 'savant-like' abilities, as the OP suggested, when it comes to art composition. I'm very good at color composition, form and placement in regard to design. I've won a long string of awards in several states for it. I didn't study graphic design or art in college (my major was political science, oddly enough, something I've never pursued since), but I've sold paintings ranging in price from $450 to $12,000. Someone once asked where where this 'ability' came from and I replied that I didn't know, it was just always there. I drew pictures even before I could speak and for a short time that's how I communicated with people. I've always been able to use art and design as a more accurate way of 'expressing myself.' I love to write stories, too, but as much as I hate to admit it, I'm much better at art and graphic design than I am at writing fiction.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rainstorm5 wrote:
Fuzzy wrote:
Sublyme wrote:

Another ability I have is to always know what time it is, almost to the minute. It's like I have a clock inside my head...this freaks people out. I don't know where that comes from.


I was going to bring that up. When I wake up in the 'morning' I know what time it is, despite not having visible clocks(and my window is blocked off from light


Actually, most people have this ability - even NTs. Humans have an internal clock and when asked, can usually guess what time it is to within a half hour. This 'sense of time' can be disturbed, though, by locking one's self in a room where there is no sunlight for several days at a stretch, or it can be messed up after taking a long flight (jet lag). When our internal clocks are 'off kilter' we often feel sick (headache/nauseous/sleepy) or just 'out of sorts' until we rest and expose ourselves to outdoor light for a day or two. It's an instinctual thing.



I know it's normal to have an internal clocks of sorts, humans are supposed to have one. It's pretty normal to guess the time within a half hour or so....it's when you wake up in the morning and know it's 5:37am, or when you are on your hour long lunch break at a restaurant and you know the time is 1:21pm and you have to leave to get back to work on time.= that it becomes somewhat of an odd skill. It being almost to the exact minute is what freaks people out.....this may not be a savant skill at all, but still people can get freaked out my the accuracy of my sense of time....

Actually I'm very sensitive to my internal clock being disrupted. Daylight savings time really messes me up. It's not the lost or gained hour....it's that the clocks are lying.

That being said, although I always know what time it is, that doesn't mean I am never late. I often get so fixated on what I'm doing, I can't leave on time, even though I know I'm going to be late.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:21 am    Post subject: I Reply with quote

I beleive I might have sexual savant abilities
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sublyme wrote:
Rainstorm5 wrote:
Fuzzy wrote:
Sublyme wrote:

Another ability I have is to always know what time it is, almost to the minute. It's like I have a clock inside my head...this freaks people out. I don't know where that comes from.


I was going to bring that up. When I wake up in the 'morning' I know what time it is, despite not having visible clocks(and my window is blocked off from light


Actually, most people have this ability - even NTs. Humans have an internal clock and when asked, can usually guess what time it is to within a half hour. This 'sense of time' can be disturbed, though, by locking one's self in a room where there is no sunlight for several days at a stretch, or it can be messed up after taking a long flight (jet lag). When our internal clocks are 'off kilter' we often feel sick (headache/nauseous/sleepy) or just 'out of sorts' until we rest and expose ourselves to outdoor light for a day or two. It's an instinctual thing.



I know it's normal to have an internal clocks of sorts, humans are supposed to have one. It's pretty normal to guess the time within a half hour or so....it's when you wake up in the morning and know it's 5:37am, or when you are on your hour long lunch break at a restaurant and you know the time is 1:21pm and you have to leave to get back to work on time.= that it becomes somewhat of an odd skill. It being almost to the exact minute is what freaks people out.....this may not be a savant skill at all, but still people can get freaked out my the accuracy of my sense of time....

Actually I'm very sensitive to my internal clock being disrupted. Daylight savings time really messes me up. It's not the lost or gained hour....it's that the clocks are lying.

That being said, although I always know what time it is, that doesn't mean I am never late. I often get so fixated on what I'm doing, I can't leave on time, even though I know I'm going to be late.


I cannot believe what I read on here! For the first time I am reading so much that I can actually relate to and understand and it just amazes me that others can be so much like me because, honestly, I have been around no one but NTs my whole life and felt like the only isolated outcast.

The internal clock is definitely something I can relate to and what's strange is others in my family do the same thing. What we can do, and I don't know if this is "savant like", we can wake up at the same time everyday without an alarm clock! It is truly strange. Imagine waking up at exactly 3:39 am every single morning without an alarm clock! Unfortunately we don't wake up at a time we choose, just a time our brains choose for what reason I have no clue.

Does anyone else do this?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I do but I am not blessed with the extremely rare form of prodigious abilities - that is extremely rare. I was just unusually talented as drawing what I see from a very early age. But I am certainly not a savant with mathematics or music.
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