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beef_bourito
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no chance i'd "convert" to another religion for a woman. i used quotations because i can't just change my beliefs like that, so i'd be living a lie if i were to do it and i've done enough of that that i don't want to do it again.
i'd be willing to live with hers, i would be willing to wait until marriage for her, but i most certainly will not convert for her. she'd have to accept me the way i am or find someone else. |
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NeantHumain
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| Proselytizing is fundamentally arrogant. It is saying, "My core beliefs are true and best; yours are flawed and errant, in need of correction by a concerned party such as myself." Trying to convert a potential mate is disrespectful and shows a fundamental gap in compassion and understanding. |
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SpaceCase
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I am comfortable with my siggie's beliefs if she is fine with mine. Really,both you and your GF/BF need to have a certain degree of open-mindedness and knowledge of the others' religion.
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Tim_Tex
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| SpaceCase wrote: | I am comfortable with my siggie's beliefs if she is fine with mine. Really,both you and your GF/BF need to have a certain degree of open-mindedness and knowledge of the others' religion.
-SpaceCase |
I couldn't have said it better myself.
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MisterHeron
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: |
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I would never convert for another, and wouldn't expect them to do so for me either.
In a relationship, it isn't even necessary we share the same beliefs, so long as we can be tolerant of each other. Ideally, we should be able to be complete opposites on religion, while still being able to talk about it without proselytizing. |
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Tim_Tex
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:23 am Post subject: |
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It's possible to have the same beliefs without changing religions. I am referring to a general belief system, which isn't necessarily tied to any religion.
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JohnHopkins
In no way offensive to anybody. Honest.
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| ToadOfSteel wrote: | | JohnHopkins wrote: | | Tim_Tex wrote: | | Plus I don't follow all of the rules listed in the Bible, which is another liberal characteristic of my beliefs. |
This is why while I do believe in God, I am not a Christian. |
Most of the rules listed in the Bible are fairly trivial, and even Jesus says that the most important commandment is to "love the Lord with all your heart and all your soul and all your mind", and to "love your neighbor as yourself". Just as certain laws take priority over others (i.e. you wouldn't stop to issue a speeding ticket while chasing a hit and run vehicular homicide), the same applies to the laws of God. Doing the other things listed elsewhere in the Bible is just a way to fulfill those two commandments and bring yourself closer to God. |
You're answering a question I didn't ask 
The rules in the Bible are not trivial. It also says in the Bible that every sin is equal in stature.
Anyway, this is irrelevant, as I am not a Christian. |
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catlover02
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| I would never change my religion for someone. I am a christian and I always will be. I will only date and marry a christian. Dawn |
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Tim_Tex
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I just wish there were more Christians who shared my interest in animated sitcoms.
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crackedpleasures
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Actually, I may have a bit of a bizarre secret desire... Not that I really mind, but I'd find it nice my future girlfriend would be jewish or Muslim.
Because I just find it incredibly fascinating to discover other cultures, so when your girlfriend is from a different cultural background you can enlighten each other about each others' culture which makes the relationship even more of a voyage and discovery than it already is. Also, to become somewhat a part of a family from a totally different cultural background seems just very interesting to me and not the slightest problem.
I respect everyone's believes so I would never rate a girl based on her religion. But I must say I definitely would not mind dating a girl who has a different belief than me, I'd even see it as a bonus somewhat.
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madam_mim
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I'm an atheist who has dated two Jewish boys for about a year each. I wouldn't convert to Judaism because I believe that dogma and religion are, well, not real. But, I would take part in religious holidays (if I could) with my significant other as often as possible because as long as someone doesn't force religion on me or tell me that I'm "wrong," then I'm happy.
Not to be awful, but I'd rather date (eventually) someone who is pretty much nonreligious. |
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Hector
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| Only if she could persuade me. So no, probably not. |
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BallisticMystic
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Maybe you're not really looking but feel the need to justify it in a world where you're "supposed" to be looking.
I was always looking for the right person when I was younger, the problem is that my criteria were so stringent that what I was looking for just wasn't out there.
While your criteria appear simple enough to accommodate, you admit that there doesn't seem to be anyone in your sphere of activity that meets it.
The simple answer is that you know you're not going to find it because you know it's not "out there" but within you. You go through the act of attempting to look for it externally because of perceived expectations, but you never seriously try to find it.
As far as being "christian", what is it you mean when you say that you're christian?
I don't mean what labeled sectarian group do you throw down with, but what is it that you personally believe that's different from what "they" personally believe? Do you even know what anyone else really believes? Are you really all that sure about what YOU believe when you actually stop to think about it?
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carturo222
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| JohnHopkins wrote: | | No. I don't think that's the way you should enter a religion. Changing your religion to suit a partner puts them on a higher pedestal than the deity/deities you're supposed to be worshipping and makes it essentially a 'going through the motions' religion. It's a dishonest thing to do, really. If you convert to the religion independently, that's a different thing - that's what my brother-in-law did while in a relationship with my sister. But by no means did he 'do it for her.' |
A very close friend of mine fell for a girl who was a Jehovah's Witness. He was as deeply in love as can be imaginable, and he struggled for seven years with her uncertainty and her feelings of guilt over her dating an infidel. He even considered to convert, until I talked him out of such madness. He follows his own flavor of Christianity, but he's been seeking a formal church for years; it's just that none has satisfied him. When I showed him some historical and biblical evidence why JWs are not an option, he tried to convince this girl, but she flatly refused to even consider the possibility that everything her family had taught her was wrong. In the end, she left him after a tortuous relationship of seven painful years. He's still attempting to rearrange himself. |
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poopylungstuffing
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:18 am Post subject: |
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I voted "no"
However I admit I am a hippocrite in that that I would most likely spend much time trying to convert them to my own personal religion, which is the Church of the Winged Gnome Goddess....and I probably could not be serious with anyone unwilling to accept her.
http://www.myspace.com/wingedgnomegoddess
in fact..I would advise all of you to become members of the Church of the Winged Gnome Goddess today. It couldn't hurt....
In all seriousness...I have a very hard time with conventional religion...and could never subscribe to it.
I also don't like debating over religion all that very much...and would have a hard time hypotheticly dating anyone who was particularly religiously zealous...(unless it was towards the Winged Gnome Goddess...and that is a pretty easy-going religion)
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