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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote





I know the Cure isn't Emo, I have heard some people call it that, they were one of the few groups I listened to in the 80's
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

matrix wrote:
Oooh, could you diagnose a band for me?

30 Seconds to Mars is not emo but what are they and why do I like them so much?


Yes they are, by modern context. Post-hardcore/pop/alt-rock.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:00 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

Q: Why do emos only ever write songs in the E minor Natural Scale?

A: Coz they'd probably cut themselves on a C Sharp

XD you know it's true <3 x
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know what I actually hate emo music and never listen to it but I still respect them. I mean if that's what they like let them be! How would you feel when somebody tells you the music you listen to is bad!? I don't have much emotions but I would most likely feel sad.

And making people sad on purpose is not nice.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:23 am    Post subject: Re: ... Reply with quote

Xanderbeanz wrote:
Q: Why do emos only ever write songs in the E minor Natural Scale?

A: Coz they'd probably cut themselves on a C Sharp

XD you know it's true <3 x


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HungarianWitch wrote:
You know what I actually hate emo music and never listen to it but I still respect them. I mean if that's what they like let them be! How would you feel when somebody tells you the music you listen to is bad!? I don't have much emotions but I would most likely feel sad.

And making people sad on purpose is not nice.


i'd never really have that problem, as my opinion on music is based on about 80% analytical appraisal and being able to rip a piece of music into it's component parts, and 20% emotional or soul...so if someone disagrees on my opinion on music i'll be able to argue them into the ground and throw a crap load of jargon at them for many hours ^.^

and i don't respect much of the human race, especially when it comes to their musical opinons, i see them as sheep who listen to whatever the damned record companies tell them to.

this is why i try not to talk about music to the vast majority of people....i keep that kind of informed discussion for my close group of musician friends.

emo music is harmonically, timbrally and rhythmically dull, uninspired and pales in comparison musically to other such (earlier) movements as alternative rock and grunge. and at least punk had energy.

so there we go, feel free to call me an elitist idiot if you want, but at least i'm a talented elitist idiot...haha

<3 xanny x
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're an elitist idiot.


I'll come back an elabroate at some point, if I can be bothered.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:26 pm    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

wicked, but to be honest i doubt that an asperger's kid who can play 13 instruments, write for orchestra, do many types of synthesis, sing, produce, create beats (including fast paced glitchy stuff) and generally live and breathes music...could have become anything other than a highly informed elitist idiot ^.^ x
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, you're pretty arrogant as well, ain'thca?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:32 pm    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

i don't think i am...i'm just good at what i do...there's no point in false modesty either though.x
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, but there's a time and a place to list your achievements.

If we're comparing our music penises, I play... *thinks* seven or eight or nine instruments, kind of depends how you look at it, and if you hand me something that's not brass I can usually figure out how to play it pretty quickly. I sing, produce, arrange, rap (yes, rap), and have sufficient artistic overflow to sustain being a solo acoustic artist, an ambient/prog artist and write for a metal band all at once. I listen to music 24/7, I write for a music website, obsess over the facts about the music I listen to, my ambition is to be a music journalist and if I lost the ability to play an instrument I would probably kill myself because I couldn't live WITHOUT music in my life.

But... I wouldn't have mentioned that otherwise, because there was no need to mention it. Hell, there was no need to mention it now other than to perhaps elevate me above the uninformed peons that you apparently think 80% of people are. And there was no need for you to mention your lists of accolades either. Feel free to correct me if there was some reason other than to make yourself feel big from other people reading it and going 'omg look how talented???' Hell, you even said 'at least I'm a talented elitist idiot!!!' in a previous post.

As for emo, trying to suggest that grunge is inherently some kind of superior movement to emo is laughable. For one thing, grunge is as worthless a term as emo was, because aside from the core Seattle bands like Mudhoney, there wasn't really a consistent grunge sound. Nirvana, Stone Temple Pilots, Screaming Trees, Soundgarden had completely different sounds. For another thing, the core grunge bands were no great shakes musically, and nor were punk, so trying to pin that accusation on emo is ridiculous, because as far as musicianship, My Chemical Romance could run rings around Nirvana. And saying that emo has no energy? You've clearly never seen any of these bands live. Even the ones I don't like put everything into their performances.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:53 pm    Post subject: .... Reply with quote

yeah i just don't see it...pearl jam, soundgarden, alice in chains and their ilk were all bands filled with some wonderful songwriters, used some fantastic chords, explored lots of rhythmic ideas and i feel the latest blend of emo pap is formulaic and incredibly limited.

and when you've faced as much adversity and harshness in your life as i have (hey maybe you have and you're just less shell shocked about it) then you're damn sure allowed to feel proud over whatever you've managed to achieve. i feel my levels of cynicism about 80% of the population (give or take a few percent) are in fact realistic, based on first and second hand experience, and god I HOPE that humanity will prove me wrong some day...i just don't see it.

anyway, i'm guessing this is going off topic. i guess we simply have two very different outlooks on life and will just have to agree to disagree.

laters x
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:09 am    Post subject: Re: .... Reply with quote

Xanderbeanz wrote:
yeah i just don't see it...pearl jam, soundgarden, alice in chains and their ilk were all bands filled with some wonderful songwriters, used some fantastic chords, explored lots of rhythmic ideas and i feel the latest blend of emo pap is formulaic and incredibly limited.

and when you've faced as much adversity and harshness in your life as i have (hey maybe you have and you're just less shell shocked about it) then you're damn sure allowed to feel proud over whatever you've managed to achieve. i feel my levels of cynicism about 80% of the population (give or take a few percent) are in fact realistic, based on first and second hand experience, and god I HOPE that humanity will prove me wrong some day...i just don't see it.

anyway, i'm guessing this is going off topic. i guess we simply have two very different outlooks on life and will just have to agree to disagree.

laters x


Haha, I know you from VSE. Laughing

Emo is crap, no matter what you stuck-up tossers think. Yes come on and be all verbose about it if you want, but it's ultimately wasted on me.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:09 am    Post subject: Re: .... Reply with quote

Paddy789 wrote:

Emo is crap, no matter what you stuck-up tossers think. Yes come on and be all verbose about it if you want, but it's ultimately wasted on me.


VERBOSITY FTW! and anyway, i was arguing on the same side, emo music is crap ^.^
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