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12 Sep 2014, 1:43 pm

I was listening to a scifi radio show that had the premise that NTs would go nuts on long space flights (10+ years). The story had schizophrenic crews, lesbian crews, etc etc, all with the same result. Got me thinking, if you put two hot aspies in a tin can, surely that would work.

I was wondering how others think they would fair being in a tin can for 10 years with an attractive aspie with nothing to do but repair space craft systems, talk non-stop about their favorite subject, and have lots of sex, all with no NTs around to deal with?



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12 Sep 2014, 2:54 pm

They would stop talking during training and kill each other during liftoff.
We're too stubborn and annoying even to each other.
It would require massive amount of study to design the tin can to accommodate, and copious quantities of social therapy just to get into orbit.


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12 Sep 2014, 3:20 pm

1401b wrote:
They would stop talking during training and kill each other during liftoff.
We're too stubborn and annoying even to each other.
It would require massive amount of study to design the tin can to accommodate, and copious quantities of social therapy just to get into orbit.


You made me stop breathing with laughter!

I've never met an aspie that I couldn't get along with using logic. It could just be my experience though.

Anyone else find other aspies hard to get along with?



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12 Sep 2014, 3:30 pm

I would absolutely hate it. The thought of my brain, bones, and muscles slowly deteriorating and the lack of gravity while being trapped in space makes my skin crawl. I've read that you always feel like you're constantly falling in outer space, your nose feels like it has a brick up each nostril, and a burp can easily become a barf because there's no gravity to keep air bubbles in your stomach near the surface. I am hypersensitive to unusual changes going on in my body so there's no way I could handle it. Then there's eating strange, gross-sounding freeze-dried foods and plus there's no gravity to make the food go down naturally. I was told years ago astronauts have to learn to use their throat muscles to get it down. Of course if it stays down I guess you've accomplished a miracle.

Astronauts used to be just trained to be physically strong to endure space travel, but now a lot of it is about being mentally strong. Most human beings, even if they put in training, are not physically nor mentally strong to go out in space, so if they ever decided to send us to some new planet they think is habitable ( all kinds of people who can't get along on this planet because of race and religious and sexual intolerance all stuck inside a tin can, what a joy ), I'll be sure to have the cyanide ready.



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12 Sep 2014, 3:37 pm

OK, we'll make it spin Bab5 style and have no windows so you don't look out and get motion sickness.

I can kind of relate cause I'm sensitive to G-force changes too. And jumping out of perfectly good plane and bridge.....don't get me started.

But the story was set in the future so prob artificial gav, inertial dampeners etc would be implied.



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12 Sep 2014, 8:32 pm

We have homework to do, gentlemen.

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13 Sep 2014, 3:21 am

lostonearth35 wrote:
there's no gravity to make the food go down naturally. I was told years ago astronauts have to learn to use their throat muscles to get it down. Of course if it stays down I guess you've accomplished a miracle.

I just tried eating while lying horizontall for curiosity's sake. It's nothing special.

By the way, better make it two tin cans.


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13 Sep 2014, 7:08 am

Verax wrote:
I was wondering how others think they would fair being in a tin can for 10 years with an attractive aspie with nothing to do but repair space craft systems, talk non-stop about their favorite subject, and have lots of sex, all with no NTs around to deal with?

Only if her favourite subject was sex, and she could be locked up in the repair pod control room in between practising it.



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15 Sep 2014, 12:54 pm

Concerning the weightlessness...

For the first half of the trip, accelerate at 9.8 m/s², then for the second half, flip the spacecraft around and decelerate at 9.8m/s².

I think Stanley Kubrick (an Aspie) already figured it out, the space craft ins in the shape of a a ring, and the ring is rotated such that at the edges approx 1g is felt.



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15 Sep 2014, 12:56 pm

Not sure what happens at the time of 3e8/9.8 (when you would reach the speed of light, in seconds).



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17 Sep 2014, 9:16 am

ah, the old continuous 1g acceleration trick.
You wouldn't have to worry about reaching the speed of light as there is not enough energy in the universe to do that.
To go faster than the speed of light you would have to convert everything to tachyons but then you would arrive before you left.



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17 Sep 2014, 3:31 pm

One hot NT lady, and one hot aspie lady, as my "sister wives" on this venture might work. One could be the Yin to other's Yang.



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17 Sep 2014, 4:28 pm

I find most aspies get along horribly with other aspies ( including myself) so I think the mission would go something like this

- Aspie 1: "FOOD RATIONS?! I can eat this s**t I have food sensitivsity I can only eat bland food"

- Aspie 2 "Oh shut up if this food is blander than starbucks muffins"

- Aspie 3 " OHGODOHGODOHGODOHGOD SENSORY OVERLOAD *BLARGHH*

- Aspie 4 " OH f**k IM AN EMATAPHOBE "Opens emergency door without proper gear and gets sucked into space and dies"

- Aspie 5 "plz kill me"

- Aspie 6 "WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE IS NO DOOR ON THE WASHROOM I HAVE A SHY BLADDER I NEED MUH PRIVACY"

- Aspie 1: WHAT THE HELL DO YOU MEAN THERE'S NO INTERNET I NEED TO STREAM MY JAPANESE PORNO"

- Aspie 2: I swear to god the next person that complains I am going to strangle with the air pumps, also aspie 3 clean up your f*****g vomit

- Aspie 3: *Annoying whining voice* why should I HAVE TO DO ALL THE WORK AROUND HERE ITS ALL YOU FAGS HERES FAULT FOR NOT KEEPING THE STYROFOAM CRACKERS IN THE PACKETS

- Aspie 5: "Guise aspie 4 is dead in case you didn't notice"

- Aspie 6 " I DON'T GIVE A s**t THERES NO DOOR ON THE WASHROOM

I actually went on a canoe trip once with this aspie support group I used to go ( terrible idea the canoe trip was in the first place) and that's basically how the whole trip went



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17 Sep 2014, 5:17 pm

Sad, but probably true.

Never met another a person officially dxd as being on the AS ( whom I was aware of being that) until late in life when I started going to a local support group.

But Dox (the gun guy here on WP) talked about having long years of experience with support group activities. Told us that he's met zillions of other aspies. And he told us we dont get along with other any better than we do with NTs. And that aspies are "just as appalled at each others' special interests as the rest of the world is".

Oh well.



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30 Sep 2014, 6:44 pm

I suspect if you did your homework, found two aspies with similar ideals and paradigms, then locked them in a tin can simulator for a few years to let their attitudes and emotions towards each other stabilize, they would probably fare quite a bit better than most "normal" people would.

I know how I would react: "let me get this straight, you want me to spend ten years rocketing farther away from this world than anyone has ever been before in a small, but comfortable, vessel to look around on a speck of dust that you're 'pretty sure' is habitable, and you want me to go with that vision of a she-nerd right there? Right? I don't understand why you didn't just say it that way in the first place, sign my ass up!" or something like that.



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01 Oct 2014, 10:27 am

I don't think Kubrik figured it out. Asimov, Heinlein, and Clarke all had that method of "artificial gravity" in their books in the early 50's.


Back to the original question, I would have to agree with 1401.

2 aspies ) The mission continues until the two aspies have to work together, then... Both dead of mutually fatal wounds.
1 aspie and 1 NT) Aspie murdered, or NT suicide. Mission continues with a crew of 1.
2 NT's) Roll the dice. It's anyone's guess.

I am sure NASA has figured it out, but sending a pair into space for any length of time is probably a bad idea. Three minimum. That way there is always an interested party as a referee. Too many and it starts looking like one of those horrible "reality" shows.

"Defying Gravity" played around the edges of that dynamic a little.


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