Linux desktop share reaches 2%

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From what I've read, Apple has done a less than admirable job of submitting their code improvements upstream... they basically just ripped off the Konqueror project and made it proprietary. There are other webkit browsers if you don't like the gecko ones, but from my own experience Safari (including Safari 4) can not touch the various Gecko browsers in performance.


Even Seamonkey gives better performance in real browsing than Safari 4. And try running Safari against Firefox 3, or even better, Firefox 3.5. It's immediately obvious that FF is faster.


Standards support is just one part of the puzzle. Firefox is always improving on those tests, and acid3 is future standards anyways- Firefox fully supports all existing standards, and will support the evolving standards tested in acid3 well in time for their adoption. Midori is nice, I'll give you that, but what about my add-ons? (Actually, right now I'm running epiphany-browser, with only an adblocking add-on, but I need that one)

Nope. because they provide a free web counter for peoples non-w3 pages. The stats collection is fairly distributed. There is a note on the w3 page about that.

Apple improved the hell out of KHTML, and its still released under the LGPL, safari is another matter entirely, but safari is merely a frontend to use webkit through. Also benchmarks disagree with your statement on the whole that firefox's (or anything that runs on gecko engine) renders are faster than webkits.

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-272792.html

Also I would appreciate it if you do make a comparison of an unreleased version of gecko along with firefox (3.5) to also compare the current development on the other side, ie using a nightly build in chromium or midori.

Not trying to start something or anything, just pointing out what I believe to be currently true. and these graphs do represent minefield, and thats against the current stable webkit, not whats in dev, though this was back in feb, perhaps now is a good time to revisit?

I stand corrected, thankyou for pointing that out. Makes me happy.

Its important to call people on spurious claims. Good work.

even though it seems this time the spurios claim was mine, I merely assumed all w3's stats were similar to w3schools, though shows how easy it is to end up with your foot in your mouth lol

Benchmarks be damned. While I was waiting for Safari 4 to load a page, I dug out Seamonkey 1.1.15 (which is crap, and outdated), launched it, and navigated to the same page. It finished loading in Seamonkey first.