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LordoftheMonkeys
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26 Aug 2010, 5:31 am

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I could get a MAC if they went down in price and Apple stopped '1984' everything that users want to do, i.e. they do NOT want you to run X on regular Intel/AMD hardware and NOT to Jailbreak your iPhone.

Its like APPLE have become what they once were portraying the opposition as (Se youtube clip below) - a bunch of gray consumerhating nazis that wants to rule the world.

On the PC platform i can do whatever the hell i want without Steve Ballmer or Linus Torvalds pointing a finger, trying to prevent me from doing stuff.


Why the hell does it matter to you what Apple does with their OWN products? If you don't like it, just don't use them. It's that simple. It's not like Apple is trying to make competing products illegal like Microsoft is. In response to your last paragraph, Steve Ballmer and Linus Torvalds do not own the PC. Apple, on the other hand, owns the Mac. There's a difference. Oh yeah, and you can't do "whatever the hell I want" with Windows. You can be sure that if you reverse-engineer it, you risk getting sued.


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26 Aug 2010, 6:31 am

Mac, for sure.



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26 Aug 2010, 12:05 pm

I use both - prefer the Mac. I do have however have Windows NT 4.0, XP Pro, and 7 Pro available to me as a virtual machine via VMware Fusion on my MacBook and a physical Windows 7 Pro machine with XP Pro as a virtual machine.



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26 Aug 2010, 11:35 pm

PC all the way. My desktop runs Windows 7 and Ubuntu, but I have Slackware and Gentoo on my laptop.


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27 Aug 2010, 12:24 am

Windows 7!

I love backtrack 3 and Arch Linux however. Haven't had a chance to setup VMs and my EeePC is collecting dust.

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Sorry, Apple is blasphemy to my ears. I don't have a single Apple product. They're overpriced. They are not as productive. They are certainly not as secure as they're cracked out to be. I would trust a Windows 98 install over OS X... And 98 doesn't have HAL. No arguments here.


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27 Aug 2010, 1:33 am

Arch Linux. No Windows on my computer.



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27 Aug 2010, 7:19 am

Windows, for now. When MAC decides to have more cheaper laptops, my decision may change.


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27 Aug 2010, 7:53 am

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PC all the way. My desktop runs Windows 7 and Ubuntu, but I have Slackware and Gentoo on my laptop.


Nice. You have a lot of flexibility in boot options. I've been meaning to try gentoo for a while.

Is wine support getting better for photoshop? I know you prefer it for photo work.


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27 Aug 2010, 7:09 pm

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[Why the hell does it matter to you what Apple does with their OWN products?



You are missing the point - when i buy the product, it becomes MY product, MY personal belonging. f**k around with MY products after i the consumer has paid for it and consumers will be pissed off.


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27 Aug 2010, 10:06 pm

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I heard Linux Mint has a problem with Authenticating binaries that come either from Ubuntu or there own repository. Is that true? Do you get an error message when you try to update, saying something about the packages couldn't be authenticated?

No. Mint uses all the official Ubuntu repos by default, and is fully compatible with any third-party Ubuntu repos as well.

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I've heard Linux Mint has had that problem since version 7 and they have yet to fix it. The devs, apparently tell people to just ignore the error message, and mindlessly click okay. Kind of like windows and that UAC thing. Just ignore the error message or something.

The same problem actually occurs occasionally in Ubuntu as well, usually when apt or your sources.list is configured badly. I use either distro agnostically and I got at least as many errors in confirming packages with Ubuntu as I do in Mint now. But I've had at least a dozen updates in the past week and zero errors in authenticating packages.

Mint is basically Ubuntu with preconfigured proprietary stuff (drivers, codecs, browser plugins, easy availability of certain user applications like Skype, Opera, etc) and a better theme. Aside from that, the two distros are identical.


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27 Aug 2010, 10:39 pm

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Windows, for now. When MAC decides to have more cheaper laptops, my decision may change.


I was a Windows devotee for a LONG time. My first post-college Mac was a white iBook G4, and I've never gone back to PC's since. Yeah, Mac has expensive laptops. But it will be the last laptop you buy for a long time!! !!

My wife got hooked on my iBook, so I bought her an iMac G5, which was GREAT until a capacitor blew... I'll get that fixed--eventually...

I have a MacBook Pro now for using the internet, managing my clients and billing, music notation software (Finale), Logic Pro 9/Mainstage (Logic, for now, has become a glorified monitor/FX unit for my Synclavier but is also nifty when I run out of voices in the middle of a composition project), synth programming (Yamaha TX7, TX802, DX7IIFD, Roland alpha Juno-1), and Reason.

AND, as though that weren't enough, I bought an old PowerMac so I could run OS9. I have an Akai S2000 sampler, so I needed an old Mac with SCSI to do audio transfers and programming. I'm not sure, but I think the PowerMac is a '96 or '97 model, but might be older. I bought it off eBay for $50.

The PC I used throughout college is a '99 eMachines that still runs win98SE with near perfect stability. Though it's drastically underspec'ed, it can be coaxed into burning DVD's, and I even use it to quickly batch-process samples for the aforementioned Akai. It runs Gigastudio, something you can't do on a Mac, and from time to time I'll backup my projects to it. It also houses the majority of my MP3 collection.

So, sure, there IS a value to keeping a PC around. But over the last few years I've grown into a dedicated Mac-head, and that's not looking likely to change any time soon!



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28 Aug 2010, 6:29 am

Ichinin wrote:
LordoftheMonkeys wrote:
[Why the hell does it matter to you what Apple does with their OWN products?



You are missing the point - when i buy the product, it becomes MY product, MY personal belonging. f**k around with MY products after i the consumer has paid for it and consumers will be pissed off.


You know what they say: "Caveat emptor." Maybe you should have done a little more research before you spent all that money on Apple products.


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28 Aug 2010, 8:51 am

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Helixstein wrote:
AND, as though that weren't enough, I bought an old PowerMac so I could run OS9. I have an Akai S2000 sampler, so I needed an old Mac with SCSI to do audio transfers and programming. I'm not sure, but I think the PowerMac is a '96 or '97 model, but might be older. I bought it off eBay for $50.

Way cool! I've been looking to buy an S2000. I'd be interested to know which Power Mac you have.


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28 Aug 2010, 9:07 am

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Ichinin wrote:
LordoftheMonkeys wrote:
[Why the hell does it matter to you what Apple does with their OWN products?



You are missing the point - when i buy the product, it becomes MY product, MY personal belonging. f**k around with MY products after i the consumer has paid for it and consumers will be pissed off.


You know what they say: "Caveat emptor." Maybe you should have done a little more research before you spent all that money on Apple products.



I have spent time researching it, that is why i haven't bought any iSomething-stuff :roll:


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28 Aug 2010, 5:04 pm

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LordoftheMonkeys wrote:
Ichinin wrote:
LordoftheMonkeys wrote:
[Why the hell does it matter to you what Apple does with their OWN products?



You are missing the point - when i buy the product, it becomes MY product, MY personal belonging. f**k around with MY products after i the consumer has paid for it and consumers will be pissed off.


You know what they say: "Caveat emptor." Maybe you should have done a little more research before you spent all that money on Apple products.



I have spent time researching it, that is why i haven't bought any iSomething-stuff :roll:


Okay, so why does it bother you then? And why did you use the first person?


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28 Aug 2010, 7:26 pm

Because some people are ignorant that their freedom is being restricted.