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15 Nov 2012, 5:33 pm

Little Shop of Horrors was better than the original.

The 1996 version of Hamlet was terrific.

The 2010 Robin Hood was a let down to me.


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15 Nov 2012, 6:46 pm

Best remakes:
I'l start with a couple oscure films...
2001 Maniacs (originally an HG Lewis gore flick called 2000 Maniacs)
The Wizard of Gore (originally made by the same man as above.) This movie stars Crispin Glover as Montag. You may know him as George McFly from BttF.
The Shining - I don't care. The original sucked and as I've heard Stephen King didn't like the original much either.
Sweeney Todd
Don't Be Afraid of the Dark

Worst:
Friday the 13th Sorry Jared Pedeleki, but you can't slay Jason. I don't care if your character on Supernatural can slay anything. You can't slay Jason. lol
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
The Ring Nothing compares to the original Japanese



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15 Nov 2012, 11:02 pm

The remake of "Psycho" left a lot to be desired...Vince Vaughn wouldn't have been my first choice to play Norman Bates; the way he played the character was so wooden.

On the other hand, "Red Dragon" kicked the rear end out of the original, which I think was called "Manhunter" (someone correct me if I'm wrong). You can't beat Ralph Fiennes' Dolarhyde character.



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16 Nov 2012, 1:57 am

Best:
Rise of the Planet of the Apes
Star Trek
To Be or Not To Be
Ocean's Eleven

Worst:
Planet of the Apes(Tim Burton one)
Rollerball
The Amazing Spider-Man
I Am Legend



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16 Nov 2012, 12:36 pm

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I own the 2004 "Flight of the Phoenix" remake on blu-ray disc. It's one of the better old movie remakes in my opinion.

I also thought the "High Noon" remake was pretty good and a lot like the original. Anybody else seen it?


Was the high noon remake a TV movie or a theater movie?



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16 Nov 2012, 2:32 pm

Another set of best i missed out.

Best:
The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo - Rooney Mara is the bomb, and the Swedish version is still brilliant.
The Christopher Nolan Batman trilogy - Vastly superior to the original films.
Rise of the Planet of the Apes - Knocks spots off the Burton incarnation.
The Thing (Carpenter remake) - A bona-fide masterpiece.
The Departed - In Scorsese's hands, he can do no wrong.
Scarface - "Say hello to my leetle friend!"


Worst:
A Nightmare on Elm Street - Jackie Earle Haley just doesn't suit the role of Freddy Krueger.
The Wicker Man - A complete insult to the original.
Clash of the Titans - Harryhausen stop motion > naff CGI.
Get Carter (Stallone) - Another insult.
Total Recall - Why oh why oh why?!?!


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28 Nov 2012, 7:29 pm

Ed TV

If people don't know, Ed TV is a remake of a French movie that has
the same plot as this rip-off of The Truman Show, even though the main difference between The Truman Show and Ed TV is that the main character in Ed TV already knows his life is broadcast to a worldwide audience because he agrees to do so willingly, unlike in The Truman Show where the lead character doesn't know that his life is broadcast to a worldwide audience.


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04 Dec 2012, 7:39 am

The 2005 King Kong and 2009 Star Trek were terrific.


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04 Dec 2012, 2:38 pm

Best remakes:
-Ben Hur (1959)
-Evil Dead 2 (kind of a remake of The Evil Dead despite being a sequel)
-King Kong (2005)
-Scarface
-Magnificent Seven (remake of Seven Samurai)
-Prince Of Egypt (kind of a remake of Ten Commandments)
-The Departed
-True Grit
-My Fair Lady (remake of 1938's Pygmalion)
-The Maltese Falcon (remake of 1931 version)
-Thomas Crown Affair
-3:10 To Yuma
-Freaky Friday
-The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo
-The Man Who Knew Too Much
-A Star Is Born (1954)

Worst remakes:
-Nightmare On Elm Street
-Halloween (1 & 2)
-King Kong (1976)
-Day The Earth Stood Still
-Karate Kid
-Psycho
-The Producers
-101 Dalimations
-Dr. Dolittle
-A Star Is Born (1976)
-Arthur
-Clash Of The Titans

That's all I can remember off the top of my head.



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04 Dec 2012, 4:22 pm

Oddly enough, I think the Coen Brothers have made one of the best remakes "True Grit" and one of the worst remakes "The Ladykillers" Well... maybe not the worst... I could watch it again and not gouge my eyes out, but it's still pretty hard to take.

Alfred Hitchcock made one of the worst remakes when he remade his own "The Man Who Knew Too Much" The original was a great piece of simple, direct film making. It did what it needed to do to tell the story and didn't confuse the issue with bad music. The Jimmy Stewart-Doris Day version, however... Yikes. What an embarrassment.

There was a made-for-TV version of "Night of the Hunter" with Richard Chamberlain made in 1991 which I remember as being pretty awful.

I thought that the American remake of "Girl With The Dragon Tattoo" was decent. I thought the Swedish version was good too. But I also thought the book was poorly written and so maybe I'm just impressed than anything solid came out of that book.

"The Magnificent Seven" was an anemic remake of "The Seven Samurai" I guess it's not a bad western but it suffers in comparison to the original.

I felt that Steven Soderbergh's version of "Solaris" was decent and no where near as bad as some people said. Of course it did have Jeremy Davis in it which makes it high in the running for questionable casting choices. I've only seen it once and much prefer the original Tarkovsky version. So I guess it doesn't belong on this list as it is neither best or worst.

While not strictly a re-make, I thought Woody Allen's "Sweet and Lowdown" was a good re-working of "La Stada" by Federico Fellini.


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04 Dec 2012, 5:41 pm

I'm going to be pedantic, and say that to qualify as a "remake," a motion picture must

Be a feature length motion picture that present substantially the same story as a previous, feature length motion picure. (So no sequels, prequels, origin stories, or reuse of characters in new plots. Nix to all the Batman films.)
Adaptations from other mediums don't count. (So no Harry Potter and the... titles, and all the various screen presentations of Hamlet are out, too.)
Adaptations of televisions series don't count. (So no X Files, or even worse, the lamentably terrible Bewitched)
Adaptations on television don't count. (So ScyFy's Dune doesn't count.)
A musical adaptation of a previous motion picture doesn't count--and vice versa. (So no, My Fair Lady--which fails on the second condition, anyway, since it was an adaptation of the stage musical and no Willy Wonka--which also fails on criterion 2, and no Little Shop of Horrors.)
Rerelease of the same footage in a new or expanded medium doesn't count. (So no Star Wars Episode I The Endless Droning on of a Film in Search of a Screenwriter: 3D, and no director's cuts.)

With that substantially narrowed field, then, we come to the question of how to assess "best" and "worst." To my mind, the vast cavernous gulf in quality between the original and the remake is the acid test. It's not enough that the new version be execrably bad. It must be an execrably bad remake of what was once a marvellous film. It must so poison the title that the original is forever tainted with its awfulness. So this disqualifies Red Dawn which was an original so awful that an awful remake is merely a repetition of a bad idea.

Similary, the best remake must be so wonderful, that is causes the the title to blossom, lotus-like, from the filth in which it had been left to wallow.

Worst

So many to choose from.

Planet of the Apes--but was the original truly wonderful? The same could be asked of Clash of the Titans. And with all due respect to Hitchcock and his original Psycho I'm not sure that horror and thriller films occupy the rarified level that can be utterly laid low by an awful remake. But there is nothing that is as remotely stale as an old joke. And so I suggest that it is in comedy that the true dreck is to be found. I offer these three crap-tacular entries:

The Pink Panther--Steve Martin is a comic genius in his own right. Why on earth would he do this to the memory of the late, great, Peter Sellers?
The Ladykillers--Tom Hanks' consistently demonstrates that his reach exceeds his grasp, and nowhere more in this utter failure to capture the comic genius of Alec Guinness.

But even these two dogs pale in comparison to that utter travesty that was:

Arthur.

For all their faults, Steve Martin and Tom Hanks can act. The same cannot be said for Russell Brand. And did Helen Mirren really need a new summer home that badly???

Best

Here we come to much pleasanter territory. A nod must go to The Man Who Knew Too Much--the only case I can think of where a director has remade his own film. It's good--but is it that much greater than the first? Well, it sets a bar, anyway.

Most of the good horror and thriller remakes fail to meet this bar. They're good, to be sure, but not quintessentially better than their originals. Cape Fear is a noteworthy exception, and perhaps The Fly is the very best of the type, transforming camp into graphic horror.

Then there are the great remakes of great originals. The Magnificent Seven, for example. But Kurosawa's The Seven Samurai is no less great a film. Similarly, The Departed cannot really eclipse, Infernal Affairs. Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Father of the Bride, The Thomas Crowne Affair, 3:10 to Yuma,True Lies, The Italian Job, Dirty Rotten Scoundrels all belong in this category.

But there are two that potentially bridge that gulf between terrible and terrific. The first is Scarface--but the comparison is almost unfair because in the 51 years that elapsed between the original and the remake, so much of the potential of moviemaking changed. But there can be no doubt that the 1983 film completely supplanted the original.

But I'm going to break my "no adaptations" rule for my best remake selection, because no such excuse can be made for Casino Royale. The 1967 original is an eminently forgettable, lamentable excuse of a spoof which--given its cast--ought to have been a comic masterpiece, and turned out to be a waste of perfectly good celluloid. But the 2006 film most assuredly takes pride of place among the great Bond films.


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05 Dec 2012, 2:06 pm

Now folks, here's another question.

What movies, in your opinion, should never get remade?


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05 Dec 2012, 10:00 pm

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Now folks, here's another question.

What movies, in your opinion, should never get remade?

To get the biggies out of the way:
-Star Wars
-Citizen Kane
-Gone With The Wind
-Casablanca
-It's A Wonderful Life
-The Godfather
-any of the Disney/Pixar animated films
-Shawshank Redemption
-Die Hard
-anything by Quentin Tarantino
-anything by Steven Spielberg



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06 Dec 2012, 5:57 pm

Best:

Planet of the Apes (2001)
King Kong (2005)
The Thing (2011)
Christoper Nolan Batman Trilogy - Greatly dark and superior.
Rise of the Planet of the Apes (2011)
Dawn of the Dead (2004)
Total Recall (2012)
The Departed
Dragon Tattoo (2011)
The Amazing Spider-Man

Worst

Red Dawn (2012) Too rushed...
Rollerball
Nightmare on Elm Street
Karate Kid
Day the Earth Stood Still
The Fog (2005)


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07 Dec 2012, 2:51 pm

crmoore wrote:
AnonymousAnonymous wrote:
Now folks, here's another question.

What movies, in your opinion, should never get remade?

To get the biggies out of the way:
-Star Wars
-Citizen Kane
-Gone With The Wind
-Casablanca
-It's A Wonderful Life
-The Godfather
-any of the Disney/Pixar animated films
-Shawshank Redemption
-Die Hard
-anything by Quentin Tarantino
-anything by Steven Spielberg


-The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly
-The Birds
-Vertigo
-the Lord of the Rings movies
-The Wizard of Oz {although a prequel is due next year}
-the Back to the Future movies
-Grease
-The Conversation
-The Rocky Horror Picture Show
-Forrest Gump
-The Silence of the Lambs


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07 Dec 2012, 4:27 pm

AnonymousAnonymous wrote:
crmoore wrote:
AnonymousAnonymous wrote:
Now folks, here's another question.

What movies, in your opinion, should never get remade?

To get the biggies out of the way:
-Star Wars
-Citizen Kane
-Gone With The Wind
-Casablanca
-It's A Wonderful Life
-The Godfather
-any of the Disney/Pixar animated films
-Shawshank Redemption
-Die Hard
-anything by Quentin Tarantino
-anything by Steven Spielberg


-The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly
-The Birds
-Vertigo
-the Lord of the Rings movies
-The Wizard of Oz {although a prequel is due next year}
-the Back to the Future movies
-Grease
-The Conversation
-The Rocky Horror Picture Show
-Forrest Gump
-The Silence of the Lambs


-Aliens
-The Crow
-An American Werewolf in London
-Blade Runner
-The Warriors
-A Clockwork Orange
-The Big Lebowski


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