Wolverine's Adamantium Claws vs a Lightsaber

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adamantium claws or lightsaber
adamantium claws would win 23%  23%  [ 7 ]
lightsaber would win 63%  63%  [ 19 ]
it would be a tie 13%  13%  [ 4 ]
Total votes : 30

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22 May 2011, 10:09 pm

they had to graft it to his bones somehow.


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22 May 2011, 10:15 pm

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Lightsaber would win, since the only thing that a lightsaber can't cut through is another lightsaber.


They can't cut through the Magnaguards electrostaff.



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27 May 2011, 1:15 am

Well, let's look at this scientifically. (Kind of. :p)

We can assume that, in the Star Wars universe, 'laser' is common slang for 'plasma', like 'hacker' for 'cracker' IRL. Why? Because if laser guns and lightsabers used real lasers, they would never have an end, and would burn holes into things without any force impact, whereas when someone is struck by a 'laser', they are knocked away. (Lightsabers we'll assume are just too thin to create much force.)

Adamantium is very hard. But it's a solid metal. Beneath it is bone.

When a knife cuts things, on a molecular level, the knife's blade is so thin the molecules slip through those of the object it cuts. Plasma, however, could make a very fine blade.

So the question becomes, how fine is it? Well, remember when Luke's hand was cut off? The surgeons were able to attach a prosthetic hand. Even granted that the Star Wars universe has amazing technology, that simply would not have been possible with a messy cut. The cut had to have been stunningly clean. So we can assume this blade has a finer edge than anything we know.

Adding in that plasma is generally at a temperature around the sun's level, even though it's probably contained by a forcefield (since, y'know, lightsabers don't light the atmosphere on fire), we can probably assume that the combination of heat, the blade, and the force of the Jedi's swing would cut Wolverine's skeleton.

Now, if it were DEEPER amounts of adamantium, there could be a problem. The density could be challenging. But the coating of adamantium on Wolverine's skeleton is thin, to accommodate for the fact that he can only develop so much muscle without steroid abuse. So I think that thin layer wouldn't stand up to a lightsaber.

Anyone want to correct my logic\physics? I'm hoping to start a total nerd thread...:p


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27 Jul 2011, 2:27 pm

PinkRangerV wrote:
Well, let's look at this scientifically. (Kind of. :p)

We can assume that, in the Star Wars universe, 'laser' is common slang for 'plasma', like 'hacker' for 'cracker' IRL. Why? Because if laser guns and lightsabers used real lasers, they would never have an end, and would burn holes into things without any force impact, whereas when someone is struck by a 'laser', they are knocked away. (Lightsabers we'll assume are just too thin to create much force.)

Adamantium is very hard. But it's a solid metal. Beneath it is bone.

When a knife cuts things, on a molecular level, the knife's blade is so thin the molecules slip through those of the object it cuts. Plasma, however, could make a very fine blade.

So the question becomes, how fine is it? Well, remember when Luke's hand was cut off? The surgeons were able to attach a prosthetic hand. Even granted that the Star Wars universe has amazing technology, that simply would not have been possible with a messy cut. The cut had to have been stunningly clean. So we can assume this blade has a finer edge than anything we know.

Adding in that plasma is generally at a temperature around the sun's level, even though it's probably contained by a forcefield (since, y'know, lightsabers don't light the atmosphere on fire), we can probably assume that the combination of heat, the blade, and the force of the Jedi's swing would cut Wolverine's skeleton.

Now, if it were DEEPER amounts of adamantium, there could be a problem. The density could be challenging. But the coating of adamantium on Wolverine's skeleton is thin, to accommodate for the fact that he can only develop so much muscle without steroid abuse. So I think that thin layer wouldn't stand up to a lightsaber.

Anyone want to correct my logic\physics? I'm hoping to start a total nerd thread...:p


I'm going to agree with you.

Let's not forget that the hulk ripped wolverine in half. I will also supply this quote from another thread on that subject:
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"As far as Hulk breaking Wolverine in half... (quick biology and metallurgy lesson here) Despite propaganda saying otherwise, Wolverine's skeleton is not completely coated with adamantium, if it were he couldn't move. Adamantium porously coats each bone individually (and it would have to be porous because blood and oxygen is required to get inside the bone to the marrow for a person to live). Also there is a malleable disc between each bone (especially in vertebrae in the spine) which allows freedom of movement along with joints and ligaments(which wouldn't be coated in adamantium if Wolverine hopes to do things like walk, stand, move in the slightest...).Now what Hulk did was indeed rip Logan apart, but it's most likely that Wolverine's spine separated at it's weakest point (the discs between each vertebra) and everything tore apart quite easily from there. So no, Hulk more than likely didn't break adamantium at all in this instance. Not to say that he couldn't if suitably pissed."


even if it didnt cut through it quickly, since the lightsaber could mangle up his flesh putting wolverine out until his flesh regenerated, you would have enough time to sever the adamantium if need be.

as far as the electrostaff: lightsabers can supposedly cut through any material (not necessarily quickly or easily) but those also generate a charge that protects the material part.

as for this:
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Could a lightsaber hurt Superman?

my immediate thought, Kryptonite focusing crystal



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27 Jul 2011, 3:21 pm

Good thought with the kryptonite focusing crystal, however I'm not sure Superman would be damaged by the lightsaber beam being passed through kryptonite. It would still be a lightsaber beam, regardless of it being focused. A vibroblade with a kryptonite edge would be another matter though.



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29 Jul 2011, 12:42 pm

More lightsabers have been broken than adamantium claws, but it hasn't been determined how the claws would affect/wound a user who doesn't have regenerative capabilities. Lightsabers are also a little easier to come by and can be repaired/replaced if they break. Add to the fact that sabers have better potential to be used as long-range (via throwing) and defensive weapons, I'll have to side with the lightsaber on this one.



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01 Aug 2011, 8:43 pm

Not only do I believe that a lightsaber could make short work of Wolverine, but that a Jedi or Sith would have Wolverine at his mercy by use of the force.

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01 Aug 2011, 10:08 pm

Titangeek wrote:
Wolverine's head roles across the floor. Yoda, standing victorious says "And that is why you shouldn't make short people jokes".


More like: "Make short people jokes, you should not."


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01 Aug 2011, 10:13 pm

MakaylaTheAspie wrote:
Titangeek wrote:
Wolverine's head roles across the floor. Yoda, standing victorious says "And that is why you shouldn't make short people jokes".


More like: "Make short people jokes, you should not."


Thank you for the grammatical correction :lol:


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01 Aug 2011, 10:15 pm

Titangeek wrote:
MakaylaTheAspie wrote:
Titangeek wrote:
Wolverine's head roles across the floor. Yoda, standing victorious says "And that is why you shouldn't make short people jokes".


More like: "Make short people jokes, you should not."


Thank you for the grammatical correction :lol:


Anytime! :wink:


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