Who do you think is a better villain, Voldemort or Orochimar

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who's the overall better villain?
Voldemort 50%  50%  [ 7 ]
Orochimaru 50%  50%  [ 7 ]
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04 Feb 2013, 3:32 pm

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I'm not at all a fan of either franchise, and neither villain would make my top 100, but I'll way in none the less.

Both villains are trying to cheat death, but for different reasons.

Orochimaru is curious: he wants to see every single jutsu that can possibly be done. I would probably feel the same way if I lived in his world, though I wouldn't go to his extremes.

Voldemort, as I understand, is simply afraid to die.

Orochimaru is a man with an actual ambition.

Voldemort is just a coward.

Maybe Voldemort is the more powerful of the two, I wouldn't know enough about either franchise to say. But he's not a more interesting character than Orochimaru, and thus loses this context.



orochimaru is easily one of the greatest villains. his goal isn't just to know every juts. he wants to attain omniscient status and omnipotent abilities and be the "ultimate being". he wants to unlock all the mysteries in the world and be the one to discover everything. and no voldemort is no where near as powerful as orochimaru. orochimaru has 4 eco hokages at his disposal. he's one of the strongest naruto characters at this point.



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04 Feb 2013, 10:35 pm

salad wrote:
Tensu wrote:
I'm not at all a fan of either franchise, and neither villain would make my top 100, but I'll way in none the less.

Both villains are trying to cheat death, but for different reasons.

Orochimaru is curious: he wants to see every single jutsu that can possibly be done. I would probably feel the same way if I lived in his world, though I wouldn't go to his extremes.

Voldemort, as I understand, is simply afraid to die.

Orochimaru is a man with an actual ambition.

Voldemort is just a coward.

Maybe Voldemort is the more powerful of the two, I wouldn't know enough about either franchise to say. But he's not a more interesting character than Orochimaru, and thus loses this context.



orochimaru is easily one of the greatest villains. his goal isn't just to know every juts. he wants to attain omniscient status and omnipotent abilities and be the "ultimate being". he wants to unlock all the mysteries in the world and be the one to discover everything. and no voldemort is no where near as powerful as orochimaru. orochimaru has 4 eco hokages at his disposal. he's one of the strongest naruto characters at this point.


I stopped following the show shortly after they appointed the gambling addict as the new hokage, so last I heard from Orochimaru was his speech during the attack on the hidden leaf village. It was a cool speech, and if I had followed the series more closely he may be a lot higher on my favorite villains list, but I got annoyed with all the darkteasing: saying a character is dead or permanently injured and then bring them back. :roll:

And power is less interesting to me in a villain than motive.



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04 Feb 2013, 10:44 pm

Orochimaru is not really as strong as he is being made out to be. Wasn't Itachi more powerful than him and actually defeated him in a fight? Can't remember really.



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04 Feb 2013, 11:11 pm

In the end the end they both do not want to die. At least one stayed dead.



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05 Feb 2013, 1:50 pm

MCalavera wrote:
Orochimaru is not really as strong as he is being made out to be. Wasn't Itachi more powerful than him and actually defeated him in a fight? Can't remember really.


actually orochimaru is the strongest one at this point after madara. he has 4 edo hokages with him and got his arms back.



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05 Feb 2013, 5:03 pm

Oh, ok. I don't read the manga, so this is news for me.



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05 Feb 2013, 5:17 pm

MCalavera wrote:
Orochimaru is not really as strong as he is being made out to be. Wasn't Itachi more powerful than him and actually defeated him in a fight? Can't remember really.


SPOILER ALERT MCalavera

Itachi "defeated" Orochimaru twice, but they were not real full blown fights. Once by simply paralising him with ocular genjutsu. The second one was in the middle of sasuke's fight with Itachi, where Orochimaru got out of Sasuke's body and turned into a snake with various giant heads. Itachi's Susano cut the heads of the snakes and sealed Orochimaru in a recipient.



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05 Feb 2013, 7:49 pm

Yeah, I know about that. I'm up to date when it comes to the anime. But thanks for adding the Spoiler alert regardless



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05 Feb 2013, 8:25 pm

It's safe to say edo jutsu has been over done and easily beaten. How many times can "oh my god. He/she is alive" happen in one anime?



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07 Feb 2013, 4:47 pm

Darkone101 wrote:
It's safe to say edo jutsu has been over done and easily beaten. How many times can "oh my god. He/she is alive" happen in one anime?



good point. at least kisame, jiraiya and konan are exempted from that category