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27 Apr 2011, 1:10 pm

Have any of you seen it?



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27 Apr 2011, 1:28 pm

Yes very upsetting many things hit way to close to home-him being into electronics-lonely-gets in trouble for being good at his job.


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27 Apr 2011, 1:30 pm

Yes, and I liked for for several reasons, cheifly because the autistic is not a savant.


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27 Apr 2011, 1:49 pm

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Yes, and I liked for for several reasons, cheifly because the autistic is not a savant.


Speaking of the whole "savant" thing, in class, we were learning about the various difficulties that come with different disorders and one girl in my class (I have complained about her many times) started describing an autistic kid she knew who had very sensitive hearing so that kid would be able to hear the person on the other line of the phone or hear someone whispering upstairs. She described him as a genius for that trait. I remember being annoyed because for some reason I assumed this girl only knew about the savant autistics who are otherwise severely disabled.

When I saw this I thought "Yay, finally someone who seems to get that autism is a spectrum not limited to the severe end where the savants are!".



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27 Apr 2011, 2:03 pm

Yes.



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27 Apr 2011, 2:42 pm

I found most of his mannerisms cool. Beth almost seemed to feel sorry for him and not know what to do when in one particular scene he was sitting on the steps and she tried to start a conversation and in response to "I'm going to take up all these bags now" he simply said "okay". That seems like something I would do, hehe. She looked at him in a sort of confused manner. She seemed a little stunned at his blunt reaction.

There was one line where Beth said to one of her parents "I don't think Adam and I will ever have a moment where we can look into each other's eyes and know exactly what the other person is thinking."

Oh, and when Adam asked the dad "Would you end up in jail?" at the theatre, I almost cracked up knowing that I would also ask that sort of question. Beth chewed him out for that and he was simply trying to fathom how it would be offensive because in his mind, he was simply asking a question out of curiosity and partial concern.



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27 Apr 2011, 3:22 pm

gailryder17 wrote:
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...... only knew about the savant autistics who are otherwise severely disabled.

When I saw this I thought "Yay, finally someone who seems to get that autism is a spectrum not limited to the severe end where the savants are!".



Not all savants are severely disabled. A news show had a segment on this guy (I think he is from Europe?) who is a very functional Aspie- and probably the smartest person who ever lived (well, memory wise). People try to deny he has Asp bc he has honed his social skills once he became aware of the issue. he can learn ANY language in a few days (he picked up Icelandic that way), speaks dozens of languages fluently, and he MEMORIZED PI enough to recite the digits FOR FIVE HOURS STRAIGHT, never making a mistake. This guy's a trip, definitely not disabled, and definitely a savant. 8O



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30 Apr 2011, 4:39 pm

BeckaVee wrote:
Not all savants are severely disabled. A news show had a segment on this guy (I think he is from Europe?) who is a very functional Aspie- and probably the smartest person who ever lived (well, memory wise). People try to deny he has Asp bc he has honed his social skills once he became aware of the issue. he can learn ANY language in a few days (he picked up Icelandic that way), speaks dozens of languages fluently, and he MEMORIZED PI enough to recite the digits FOR FIVE HOURS STRAIGHT, never making a mistake. This guy's a trip, definitely not disabled, and definitely a savant. 8O

I heard the same man on the radio. He's called Daniel Tammet and he's from England: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Tammet

I really liked Adam. I like the bit where he's distracted by the spinning thing in the office - I didn't realise other people get that too.



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01 May 2011, 4:33 pm

BeckaVee wrote:
gailryder17 wrote:
Phonic wrote:
...... only knew about the savant autistics who are otherwise severely disabled.

When I saw this I thought "Yay, finally someone who seems to get that autism is a spectrum not limited to the severe end where the savants are!".



Not all savants are severely disabled. A news show had a segment on this guy (I think he is from Europe?) who is a very functional Aspie- and probably the smartest person who ever lived (well, memory wise). People try to deny he has Asp bc he has honed his social skills once he became aware of the issue. he can learn ANY language in a few days (he picked up Icelandic that way), speaks dozens of languages fluently, and he MEMORIZED PI enough to recite the digits FOR FIVE HOURS STRAIGHT, never making a mistake. This guy's a trip, definitely not disabled, and definitely a savant. 8O


1. I read about that guy
2. I'm saying I'm happy someone seems to understand autism beyond the stereotype of "severely disabled savant



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01 May 2011, 11:25 pm

It was a barf-worthy rom com stereotypical in it's depiction of an Autistic person.


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03 May 2011, 2:28 pm

I've seen it, and if the truth be known, I much prefer Temple Grandin, and even with all its faults, Mozart And The Whale.

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06 May 2011, 10:22 am

It's OK, but just OK.

The ending was good because it did a good job of showcasing how an ASD + NT relationship just can't work much of the time. But I found it implausible that the two characters would get as far as they did to begin with.

The best scene was one of the deleted ones, where Adam flips out right after he takes Beth home. That the filmmakers omitted it proves they really didn't understand autism.

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06 May 2011, 2:38 pm

Yes.

I liked it because I could relate to some of the difficulties he had, and how he reacts to certain situations.



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06 May 2011, 4:00 pm

I thought the actors did a great job showing how is with AS/ NT relationships. But I did not like the movie because I felt it sends the wrong message. Like most people with AS, I have always struggled with finding a relationship. Because they did not end up together I think the movie was telling people that people with AS were not able to have a relationship.

People with AS in general have a hard enough time with relationship stuff. The last thing we need is for people to rule out getting to know or having a relationship with someone because the have AS.



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06 May 2011, 9:01 pm

Yes.



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07 May 2011, 9:22 am

Bethie wrote:
It was a barf-worthy rom com stereotypical in it's depiction of an Autistic person.


I wouldn't describe the film as rom com. I wouldn't even describe it as a comedy. It's an indie romance drama.


Anyways, I really thought the film was pretty accurate with its depiction of asperger's. This is especially notable when you compare the film to something like Mozart and the Whale, which IS more stereotypical (and featured a female aspie that seemed a little TOO outgoing).

When I saw it, I was able to relate with many of Adam's behaviours. I am not as far down the spectrum as he seemed to be, but it was the little things that I was able to relate with (e.g. him standing awkwardly while at a party).