I love Transformers G1 and the Bay movie

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27 Jun 2011, 5:02 pm

Alot of people don't like the Micheal Bay Transformers movies and I assume most of those people are fans of the G1 series. I love both the animated series and the animated movie that goes with it and I love the first live action movie. I was just wondering if there was anyone else who shares the exact same feelings. Also I have to be honest and please don't judge me for this but I like the live action movie better than the animated movie.



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27 Jun 2011, 5:50 pm

I enjoyed the live action movies too. I didn't like the peoples' acting or the ridiculous, unnecessary moments (Sam's mum getting high, dogs humping, destroyer robot having wrecking balls as, well, balls), but the Transformers and special effects are absolutely amazing.

I can't wait for Dark of the Moon. I hope Michael Bay does make improvements, since he admitted Revenge of the Fallen wasn't as good as it could have been. Plus, I have to say Rosie Huntington-Whiteley is niceee :P



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27 Jun 2011, 7:24 pm

I've been a TF fan since the first issue of the original Marvel comic--before I even owned one of the toys, in fact. I've enjoyed the 'Formers in most of their incarnations since, especially the Beast Wars cartoon. The first live action movie was very enjoyable. Revenge of the Fallen was mostly frustrating. You could see there was a decent story in there, but the horrible attempts at humor ruined the experience.

This gives me hope for Dark of the Moon:

IGN's Review



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27 Jun 2011, 9:40 pm

I used to be a fan of G1 Transformers, but coming back to the cartoon a few weeks ago after so many years, I thought, F***, this is cheesier than a dairy factory. Crappy dialogue and characters...well, you can see that it was made primarily to sell toys. Even the Michael Bay film has more depth to it than what I saw of the original series.


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27 Jun 2011, 10:29 pm

I have always enjoyed Transformers and enjoyed the Michael Bay films for what they were. When I go see transformers I want to see giant fighting robots and they gave me that. The acting was terrible and the plots stunk but I got to see giant fighting robots so I went home happy.



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28 Jun 2011, 12:02 am

The two Bay films have been my only exposure to Transformers. I'll quote a critic who reviewed them both, because he explains how I feel better than I could:

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I know it’s not fair to drop the B&R bomb, it’s like comparing people to Hitler in political discussion. But TRANSFORMERS is honestly approaching BATMAN AND ROBIN proportions of horribleness. You can’t say it’s as bad, because the lighting is nice and nobody’s wearing rubber fetish costumes or pink gorilla suits, but it’s a similar type of minding-numbing machine gun barrage of moronic, inept garbage. And it goes on for almost 2 1/2 hours, longer than some interrogations. (link)


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It’s hard to measure but in my opinion this is the single worst script ever used in one of these huge moron movies. It makes INDEPENDENCE DAY seem witty and tightly structured. Traditionally plenty of stupid s**t happens in a movie like this, but usually there’s an obvious plot there, “they have to stop the aliens from destroying the world, so they find a flaw in their defense systems and work out a plan to destroy them” or whatever. It’s a new development to make it so hard for a normal person to even have a clue what the f**k is supposed to be going on, what anybody is trying to do. Michael Bay applied this disorientation method first to editing, then to character design, and now to writing. (link)



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28 Jun 2011, 5:19 am

tb86 wrote:
Alot of people don't like the Micheal Bay Transformers movies and I assume most of those people are fans of the G1 series. I love both the animated series and the animated movie that goes with it and I love the first live action movie. I was just wondering if there was anyone else who shares the exact same feelings. Also I have to be honest and please don't judge me for this but I like the live action movie better than the animated movie.


Nothing wrong with that at all, i grew up with the Generation 1 series and i was equally skeptical at a live-action movie being made. Having said that, T1 was enormously entertaining. Sadly, Revenge of the Fallen was nothing more than a glorified attempt at childish humour (Stoned mother, a screaming Ramon Rodriguez and the racist Twins do not count) and a ridiculous showdown at the pyramids. Even the recent episodes of Transformers: Prime were better and have better plotlines.

How i would of made Revenge better:

Keep Megatron at the bottom of the ocean/have Starscream and Shockwave compete for leadership
Soundwave and Constructicons DONE PROPERLY
Dinobots to back up Prime and Co
Less stupid humour, but keep a few funny elements


Still, Dark of the Moon looks very promising. Despite what the critics say, i shall still be seeing it the moment i return from France.


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28 Jun 2011, 9:41 am

Empire Magazine just gave the film 2 stars, so I didn't bother to read the review incase it put me off and Rotten Tomatoes gave it 40 something percent. So I'm guessing the film isn't as "Dark Knightist" as it could have been but I may like this movie so much that it could outrank some other films on my list that would be considered 100 times better like say the first Terminator. I kind of feel like people are judging me for liking certain films over others but it's my choice isn't it. If I want to say that Batman and Robin is a good movie then thats okay because it's my choice. I don't actually like Batman And Robin just to let you know. The first Transformers movie is a personal favourite of mine despite what people say about the so called flaws. I wouldn't put it in my top 10 but it may rank somewhere in my top 50 somewhere between 40 and 50 and thats okay because it's my choice. But I will say it would outrank many other movies on my list that I like that would have better dialouge and better storytelling and I would agree that those certain movies have those things better than Transformers but I would still choose Transformers over those movies for personal and unexplainable reasons.



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28 Jun 2011, 9:50 am

Total Film online gave it 3 stars, praising the backstory and final hour which revolves around the battle of Chicago. They criticised Rosie-Huntington Whitley's acting, as followed...

"Those left cold by the last Transformers may well ask the same of Michael Bay before risking what looks likely to be his final orgy of Hasbro-inspired robo-carnage.

For them, good news. Transformers 3 (full title - Transformers: Dark Of The Moon) might struggle to equal the sheer exhilaration of Bay's 2007 trilogy-starter, but it’s a whole lot more coherent and fulfilling than Revenge Of The Fallen.

Yes, it’s punishingly long – the longest so far, in fact – and comes saddled with some excruciating attempts at comedy (the most painful involving The Hangover’s Ken Jeong as a LaBeouf-accosting conspiracy theorist).

Yet the clever hook (say, what if the Apollo 11 moon landing were a cover for some Alien-style exploration of a derelict Cybertron spacecraft?) provides a secure foundation for Bay’s customary bombast, while the devastation wreaked by snake-bot Soundwave makes it the most bad-ass Decepticon since Blackout.

Perhaps Ehren Kruger’s best move, though, is to ditch Fallen’s baffling, globe-hopping patchwork in favour of a straightforward earth invasion story that, like this year’s Battle: Los Angeles, adheres faithfully to the ID4 template.

Admittedly, it takes a while for the pieces to fall into place and for characters (flesh and metal) to reveal their true colours. But once they do, the stage is set for a final hour of über-destructive robot wars in the streets and skies of Chicago, complete with wing-suited commandos plummeting from the heavens, four climactic smackdowns and a terrific bit of skyscraper-toppling.

Now for the bad news. British model Rosie Huntington-Whiteley is awful – awful! – as LaBeouf’s new love interest, sucking the life out of every scene she appears in like some pneumatic Dyson sexbot.

Introduced with a leering pan up her Victoria’s Secret pins, she achieves the unlikely feat of making Megan Fox look like a proper actress, particularly at moments where she is required to be in peril.

Huntington-Whiteley is so terrible, in fact, she makes her co-stars bad too. LaBeouf, for one, has rarely looked so sweatily desperate than in scenes where he is obliged to simulate ardour. But then his own performance isn’t much to write home about either, pitched as it is at such a heightened level of consternation you fear he might pass out at any minute.

Elsewhere Frances McDormand gives good ball-breaker as a pushy Secretary of Defence (“Stop with the ma’am!”), while Alan Tudyk amuses mightily as the hair-trigger assistant of John Turturro’s oddball Sector 7 agent.

Leonard Nimoy, meanwhile, gets to recycle his “needs of the many” speech from Wrath Of Khan in his role as the reawakened superbot Sentinel Prime. Now that was a sequel...


Verdict:
A largely linear plot and some ingenious appropriation of 20th century history helps T3 correct most of T2’s deficiencies without really matching T1’s superior entertainment value and element of surprise."


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28 Jun 2011, 11:46 am

Alot of people are praising DOTM for the CGI, does anyone like it for it's plot.



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29 Jun 2011, 5:58 pm

I just watched the first movie which i've seen many times before just now and it felt a little different. Granted it's a good movie, but after reading some of the negative reviews of the third one it kinda got me thinking of how alot of people don't like the first one. The dialouge and acting is kinda dumb at times especially from Shia Labeouf who I always thought was okay in the first movie but really went too far in the second one. But now I think even in this movie he kinda sucked. For the first hour or less Optimus and the others don't appear on screen and thats when the film gets much better. Usually I watch a movie I've seen more than once and sometimes only once I kind of feel unsatisfied and wonder if it's as good as the first time I've watched it. For example I decided to watch both Iron Man movies back to back granted that the second wasn't as good as the first and when I watch the first it seemed kinda boring at the time, granted that I have watched and enjoyed it many times in the past and I seemed to enjoy watching the second one more despite not being all that good. This usually happens with other films like Avatar and Star Wars. I guess this would be called off days. Not long after watching the Iron Man movies on that day, I later watched the first one again because my mum wanted to watch it and I enjoyed it much more. I'm guessing for only this day I didn't really enjoy Transformers that much but when I watch it again in the future, I'll probably enjoy it more.