Did Luke Skywalker join the darkside?
I'm told that in one of the novels or comics that Luke Skywalker actually joined the darkside. I've never seen or read anything beyond the 6 movies aside from the Clone Wars animated series and the short mini series but (and I know I shouldn't take this seriously as it is all fiction) the idea that Luke would join the darkside in the end is kinda disturbing. I mean this is the guy who said "Never. I will never turn to the darkside". Surely there must be some pissed off fans out there. Now it's possible that the books don't share any real proper continuity with the movies and that really in the end Luke died a good man, but I'm don't really know if that's true. They say the Star Trek novels are not in continuity with the shows and movies but I'm not so sure about the Star Wars ones. I ask this now because of the new trilogy coming out. What if Luke does join the darkside in those movies and even if he doesn't would this so called book in which he does still be canon.
George Lucas said the EU is not canon. Then again, he also doesn't control the franchise anymore, so if Disney's hired gun decided he wanted Luke to join the darkside, he could.
In the graphic novel Dark Empire, Luke decides to try and learn the Dark side of the force to conquer it without being corrupted by it, so he apprentices himself to a clone of the Emperor. He does end up seduced by the Dark side and Leia has to rescue him and turn him back.
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I don't known if this is true or not, but supposedly, Lucas had considered the possibility that in the climax of Return Of The Jedi, Luke falls for the Emperor's temptation, and joins the Sith - leaving the struggle for the Jedi up to Leia. Now, there are plenty of myths about what might have been planned - even George Lucas hasn't been entirely honest about what he had originally intended, and why something had ended up on film - so it's hard to tell.
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Yes, there is a novel where Luke briefly falls to the Dark Side. There's also his moment of giving in to his anger at the climax of Return of the Jedi, thus conclusively proving that Yoda was, in the words of author David Brin, "a lying little green oven mitt". (Yoda stated that if you gave in to the temptation of the Dark Side, even for a moment, "forever will it dominate your destiny. Consume you it will!" At the end of the movie, Luke doesn't seem terribly "consumed" to me - how about you?)
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Consumed by the Dark Side? Hardly. It was seeing that he was potentially becoming his father (seeing his own robotic hand, in comparison to his father's robotic stump) that pulled him back to the light. Not only that, but he even manages to reawaken what remained long dormant inside the robotic Vader body of Anakin Skywalker, and brings him back before he dies.
Maybe Luke is Unsithable.
At the very least, he has more in common with Kennobi than he did with his own father.
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When you say breifly how long was it? I really don't want Luke to join the darkside. Surely fans will be pissed off. It's like if Optimus Prime joined the Decepticons in the end of a movie series. I mean if Luke was being sort of a puppet and being controlled like Superman with red kryptonite or Spider-Man with the symbiote then maybe I would understand because Luke is the guy you're suppose to be routing for when you're watching those films.
When you say breifly how long was it?
Haven't read it myself, but I got the impression that the fall was from about the fourth chapter until shortly before the climax of the book. Like I said, briefly.
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Luke Skywalker, self-proclaimed "Jedi Master", did in fact join the Sith in Dark Empire. He was captured by Force Storm, taken to Byss, where he knelt before the reborn Emperor Palpatine and pledged himself, much like his father before him.
Surpreme Commander Skywalker (also referenced as Executor Skywalker, his father's title before him) oversaw the World Devastator attacks on New Republic/Rebel planets, and at least parts of the Operation Shadow Hand campaign pushing out from the core.
He also sabotaged said offensives, and shipped a copy of at least some of Empire's war plans to his sister as she fled Byss (long story). He attempted to betray his master, failed, and returned to the Sith. He finally turned on the Emperor and (sources conflict) defeated him in a sword and/or force duel with the help of his sister and her unborn child, before fleeing as a force storm tore apart the Eclipse I.
If it's still floating around on the web, the fanfic novelization, Test of Wills, is almost surely the best piece of fan fiction ever written.
Now, out of canon, Dark Empire has the serious flaw in that it was written before Timothy Zahn's Thrawn trilogy, and set after it. DE was written in a canon where the "New Republic" never took the core, and was still on the outskirts of an Empire happily tearing itself apart. Probably a much more "realistic" outcome. The EU canon as it exists now is an attempt to keep Dark Empire in sync with the Zahn novels, and everything since has suffered from bringing Kevin J Anderson to write the "Jedi Academy" novels as a ret-con.
Yes, the same KJA who "wrote" the "new" Dune novels.
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None of the books are canon, btw.
No, Zahn did'nt know about DE (or was told not to care, stories differ), what happened there is'nt his fault. Lucasarts considerably tightened up after that.
DE might have a better case to being canon than most think. A large portion of the plot of ROTS really makes no sense (Darth Plegius the Wise?) unless viewed in the context of DE. Lucas supposedly send DE copies as holiday gifts as well. The ships only seen in DE are openly referenced in Lucasarts circles, as opposed to some ships only seen in the weaker canon.
While the Mouse of course gets to call the turbolasers now, DE has an exceedingly good claim to be canon until overuled.
The same cannot be said for some books, which should be thrown in a trash compactor.
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It was my understanding that the OP was attempting to reference Dark Empire, but was'nt sure of the name.
I would think the Mouse subject deserves it's own thread (is there one?).
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No but he nearly did, I read the novel where it happened. It was in on of Timothy Zahn's novels, I think in the Thrawn Trilogy, where Luke was looking for a Jedi master for his future children. Anyway, the one he found turned out to be a clone of a Sith that lived in the Old Republic days. I think Mara Jade was also in it.
No but he nearly did, I read the novel where it happened. It was in on of Timothy Zahn's novels, I think in the Thrawn Trilogy, where Luke was looking for a Jedi master for his future children. Anyway, the one he found turned out to be a clone of a Sith that lived in the Old Republic days. I think Mara Jade was also in it.
No. Luke (as opposed to his clone "Luuke" :Rolls eyes:) came nowhere near working for Jourus C'Bouth (or whatever his name was), who was obviously nutty as a curbie salad. Said Jedi Master was an insane clone of one that Palpatine had previously had killed during the last days of the Old Republic.
Luke and Mara Jade took care of him as Han Solo blasted the mountain to shreds.
OP is almost surely refering to Dark Empire.
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