Glorifying Autism is Disgusting

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Illness seems like it must be a full-time job. Autism is on the list next to adult antisocial behavior & you seem pretty boisterous about it.

You don't have to download anything I attach. I'm perfectly happy to make that call for you if you need a fight that badly. Good thing that doesn't really seem to be the case.

Listen to me. Hang around here and you'll see what we really are. Give us a read from time to time. You'll find samples of everything but we're more inclined to helping each other build toward independence. I held down office jobs and supported myself for 35 years. It was not comfortable but it can be done. Today things are more advanced and there are "refuelling places" like WrongPlanet.

This is nothing like you've been taught at hospitals and so on. Give it a try.

Also, one symptom of autism as a disorder is tendencies toward organization.

I agree with pretty much everything you said. I'm surprised by the reaction of some individuals towards you; and if anything, it reinforces the point about being boisterous.

Apparently the deaf community is one of the worst. But I've read/heard a lot of "autism supremacy" comments in my time. There can be a profound hate for the NT's. Irony is, we can be as different from each other as we can be from them.


Yes, so true. Many believe that it would be a paradise, but it so wouldn't. It wouldn't last long at all.


If there is anyone out there, who isn't autistic, but simply wants to be, as some self-diagnosed aspie hypochondriac; you wouldn't be welcome anywhere near me.


There is a lot of truth in this. Many people can't learn something without first gaining the point of view and hindsight. A lot of people wish for an earlier diagnosis; but they don't realise that the lessons they learned in battling life would've been lost.

I was diagnosed last year at 25 years old. I battled all of those years to try to fit into society, work, earn my own money, all while keeping my demons just below the surface. That life didn't work, and it ended badly. Now I'm diagnosed, the battle continues but I leaned a LOT in those 25 years, and I wouldn't want to be without those lessons.

You ended your message rather rudely, but I get your point. Thanks for posting.

methodic, I'm with you here. I more or less agree. But you need to chill out. There's really nothing to gained from acting this way.

You're no better than glorifiers. Extremism in all forms is an ugly thing. I've been professionally diagnosed with aspergers and I see it as neither a curse or a gift. I just am.

What happened to

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Anybody who thinks independence is predicated on suffering probably knows neither. Finding independence isn't an ordeal. Why else would people climb mountains?

Well, it IS an ordeal for people with more serious executive function disorder symptoms that often coincide with having autism.

I have the most difficult time staying on task and doing the most basic necessary things in life sometimes. So working hard to deny that part of me is... well... pretty darn tough.

Whether or not I do have autism, I don't really think it matters anymore. I've had my butt kicked for 31 years, work in a loud, noisy, warehouse, and a stressful fast food place. Without the discipline in life, suffering in my body, and my faith in God, I would not be as independent as I am.

So I am kind of glad that I was not diagnosed.

But the whole bitter attitude thing displayed by the OP just seems overkill. I guess if he has to vent, so be it. Maybe it will make him feel better so he can get on with life?

I was just thinking the same thing!

Common, methodic, let's at least have a little consistency here.

But if you change your mind and want to be a part of our online community, then that's cool, too. No hard feelings.

The OP needed to vent, and that's great! This is the place to do it!

And forget what the experts say about "disclosure". You live life by YOUR rules, and if people don't appreciate it, forget them!

Don't bow down to being herded like a cow into various areas and treatments; it will be your downfall.

It seems that you lied about the latter, therefore I'll have to assume you are indeed the former.

Welcome to WP anyway, don't let the door hit you in the Aspie on your way out!

Another way I could say that would be I have a hard time thinking of anything weaker than suggesting others should suffer in order to build OP a nicer world. If that's not entitlement I don't know what is, its' got nothing to do with individual strife. Suffering doesn't teach anything.

Hence the "more or less". There's parts where I disagree, even if I relate strongly to the basic idea of the original post.

He'll be back. Sorry for beating you to the punch Fnord...

@AJ: Clearly a civilization of billions requires NTs. NT is just a shorthand generalization anyway, any species lacking in perceptual variance tends to die out pretty quick.

I think you mean "too arrogant". Just sayin'.