I see the "like" button is back again...

Page 3 of 3 [ 46 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3

Vigilans
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jun 2008
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,181
Location: Montreal

11 Nov 2011, 8:27 pm

AngelKnight wrote:
My guess is that the autotagging bits are only used on photos uploaded directly to Facebook. It'd seem very wrong, and very obvious, if Facebook started examining images hosted on a page just because the page has a Like button on it.


Definitely possible. In any case I'm glad I never have posted my picture publicly. There are web pages such as Pipl that connect disparate social networking profiles, emails, etc of one user on a plainly visible page. I have heard a few rumors Pipl also wants to use biometric software to find photos of people so it'll probably be an inevitability regardless of whether Facebook is capable of doing it right now with pages linked via "Likes"

AngelKnight wrote:
This may have more weight. When my browser still retains a login session with Facebook, the Facebook Like button text is localized to my language. Since most people on Earth don't use Facebook in Irish, I'm pretty sure Facebook's like widget "knows who I am" when it's rendered. Since it's loaded via HTTP referrer, that means the fact that the Like button is rendered as part of the content for a given URL means that Facebook probably records that URL somewhere. All of this part presumes a stock browser installation without any plugins.


(Off topic but that's cool that you use Facebook in Irish, I really like the language)

You're right about Facebook recording the URL, as you can even store devices as a further security measure on your Facebook account (thus your internet address is stored by Facebook). Though in this case that is not really much to worry about, as you are still not technically logged in to Facebook, so clicking the "Like" button will just send you to the login page instead of the action actually occurring (such as by accident if you're using a phone or tablet to browse).

It also occurs to me that Alex mentioned you can hide "Likes" on your wall, which is true, but you may not notice yourself if you accidentally "Like" something (unless you check the list of pages you "Like" and find it there)!

Asp-Z wrote:
Can't see any like buttons myself. Oh yeah, it's because my NoScript extension blocks all scripts unless I specifically whitelist them, and Facebook... Yeah, they're not on that whitelist ;)


Good call. I use NoScript too but for the time being I put Facebook on that list, though I might change that as I rarely use Facebook at all anymore


_________________
Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do


Moog
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Feb 2010
Age: 47
Gender: Male
Posts: 17,671
Location: Untied Kingdom

23 Nov 2011, 8:36 am

Looks like it's gone again.


_________________
Not currently a moderator


xmh
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 25 Jun 2011
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 335

23 Nov 2011, 10:56 am

Quote:
I'm pretty sure Facebook's like widget "knows who I am" when it's rendered.


It tells you how many of your friends like the page, it would have to know who you are.

Quote:
Looks like it's gone again.


Still their for me.

--

I don't like the idea of all these websites interconnecting. I deliberately registered with a username that I don't use on any other forums.

Some people seem to overuse the like button, filling up the facebook news feed with lots of pointless entries.



DW_a_mom
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 22 Feb 2008
Gender: Female
Posts: 13,689
Location: Northern California

23 Nov 2011, 4:55 pm

I would much prefer a "like" button for Wrong Planet, as a forum, over a button on individual threads. I honestly think THAT would be the way to go.

Among other things, that button is STILL where it can get hit by accident while reading posts on a phone or other touch screen medium, and people are going to totally freak out if they accidentally "like" a very private thread. Or a thread they opened by mistake ... It is NOT easy to "unlike" articles on Facebook.

I am also OK with "like" for the front page articles and videos; nothing all that embarrassing ever happens in those.


_________________
Mom to an amazing young adult AS son, plus an also amazing non-AS daughter. Most likely part of the "Broader Autism Phenotype" (some traits).


DW_a_mom
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 22 Feb 2008
Gender: Female
Posts: 13,689
Location: Northern California

23 Nov 2011, 4:56 pm

Moog wrote:
Looks like it's gone again.


It's on my page. At the bottom of open threads.


_________________
Mom to an amazing young adult AS son, plus an also amazing non-AS daughter. Most likely part of the "Broader Autism Phenotype" (some traits).


Moog
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Feb 2010
Age: 47
Gender: Male
Posts: 17,671
Location: Untied Kingdom

23 Nov 2011, 5:03 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:
Moog wrote:
Looks like it's gone again.


It's on my page. At the bottom of open threads.


Huh, maybe one of my ad blockers thingies has smushed it?


_________________
Not currently a moderator


DW_a_mom
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 22 Feb 2008
Gender: Female
Posts: 13,689
Location: Northern California

23 Nov 2011, 5:04 pm

Vigilans wrote:
Pages that are "liked" show who "likes" them as far as I know so it is only partially solving the problem to hide it on your own page. Additionally Facebook reserves the right to alter their privacy controls on a whim, which they certainly prosecute, so the safest bet IMO is to
A) Don't like anything, whatsoever (I already do this with Facebook, I *never* like anything that isn't a comment or photo by friends, so yeah, nobody knows I am a fan of "drinking coffee naked" or whatever frivolity most pages represent, but my account is not now associated with a public page)
B) Do not sign into your Facebook and Wrongplanet.net at the same time under any circumstances


I find it distressing that I am supposed to have to think so hard to keep my privacy while using the internet. I am caught by connections I did not know existed ALL THE TIME, and by changes in terms sites make. I'm just not that tech savvy and I should not have to be just to engage on a platform. I have Facebook because some long distance friends wanted to connect that way, and in order to ease old friends finding me it is my full, real name. But I want no connection between there and here because, to put it simply, here I talk about my son and my daughter, and NEITHER of them want to have any type of "public" or internet presence. Should my Wrong Planet activity connect to my real name, I can deal with ME being outed, but the scary part is that THEY would be outed.


_________________
Mom to an amazing young adult AS son, plus an also amazing non-AS daughter. Most likely part of the "Broader Autism Phenotype" (some traits).


Moog
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Feb 2010
Age: 47
Gender: Male
Posts: 17,671
Location: Untied Kingdom

23 Nov 2011, 5:05 pm

Moog wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Moog wrote:
Looks like it's gone again.


It's on my page. At the bottom of open threads.


Huh, maybe one of my ad blockers thingies has smushed it?


Yes, that was the case, I must have told adblock to smush it.


_________________
Not currently a moderator


Vigilans
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jun 2008
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,181
Location: Montreal

26 Nov 2011, 12:08 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
Pages that are "liked" show who "likes" them as far as I know so it is only partially solving the problem to hide it on your own page. Additionally Facebook reserves the right to alter their privacy controls on a whim, which they certainly prosecute, so the safest bet IMO is to
A) Don't like anything, whatsoever (I already do this with Facebook, I *never* like anything that isn't a comment or photo by friends, so yeah, nobody knows I am a fan of "drinking coffee naked" or whatever frivolity most pages represent, but my account is not now associated with a public page)
B) Do not sign into your Facebook and Wrongplanet.net at the same time under any circumstances


I find it distressing that I am supposed to have to think so hard to keep my privacy while using the internet. I am caught by connections I did not know existed ALL THE TIME, and by changes in terms sites make. I'm just not that tech savvy and I should not have to be just to engage on a platform. I have Facebook because some long distance friends wanted to connect that way, and in order to ease old friends finding me it is my full, real name. But I want no connection between there and here because, to put it simply, here I talk about my son and my daughter, and NEITHER of them want to have any type of "public" or internet presence. Should my Wrong Planet activity connect to my real name, I can deal with ME being outed, but the scary part is that THEY would be outed.


It is distressing, and invasive; the modern internet connected society. I worry that years down the line the things people have been posting will haunt them in some Orwellian fashion as tracking technology comes to a zenith.

Protecting your privacy is important; if you use Firefox, I recommend getting a few extensions: HTTPS Everywhere, Ghostery, NoScript, AdBlock Plus & Flashblock are all very useful. Sometimes they "break" pages but you can usually tweak their settings to whitelist certain websites. I think these extensions are also available for Google Chrome and maybe Safari


_________________
Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do


missmarigold
Hummingbird
Hummingbird

User avatar

Joined: 26 Dec 2011
Age: 51
Gender: Female
Posts: 20
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA, Earth, Milky Way

27 Dec 2011, 12:31 pm

I came to read this thread after "liking" to facebook a link from the Social Behavior rule book. I was so delighted to find that thread.
But now I deleted the like from my profile.


What I THOUGHT this thread was about was about having a like button (or rating system) for each post on WP. That would be a direct route to giving feedback to users. ykwim? I'm pretty sure this is possible but may be limited by the version of BBcode in use.


also, I have said so much stupid sh*t on the internet in the last 15 years, I don't bother trying to hide who I am too much anymore. In general being genuine is easier.



sliqua-jcooter
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Jan 2010
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,488
Location: Burke, Virginia, USA

03 Jan 2012, 4:57 pm

The moment this thread started, I've wanted to post this video. The only reason I didn't was some people will probably think that by posting the video, I'm dismissing people's concerns. I'm not. What I hope you'll realize while watching the video is that your privacy is nonexistant, regardless of whether or not you use facebook, or the Internet, or whether or not you pay for everything with cash, or any of that.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vsxxsrn2Tfs[/youtube]



DW_a_mom
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 22 Feb 2008
Gender: Female
Posts: 13,689
Location: Northern California

03 Jan 2012, 6:32 pm

I've long been aware that privacy is dead if there is someone who is dedicated to breaking through it ... but that is only a small percentage of the population. You ought to be able to keep privacy from "most" of the population.


_________________
Mom to an amazing young adult AS son, plus an also amazing non-AS daughter. Most likely part of the "Broader Autism Phenotype" (some traits).


sliqua-jcooter
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Jan 2010
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,488
Location: Burke, Virginia, USA

03 Jan 2012, 7:11 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:
I've long been aware that privacy is dead if there is someone who is dedicated to breaking through it ... but that is only a small percentage of the population. You ought to be able to keep privacy from "most" of the population.


Then the fact that there is a facebook like button on this page should be of little importance to you. Unless you actually click the button, you're not broadcasting to the world what you like. Sure, Facebook (the company) knows, but they're a far cry from "most" of the population



DW_a_mom
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 22 Feb 2008
Gender: Female
Posts: 13,689
Location: Northern California

11 Jan 2012, 6:47 pm

sliqua-jcooter wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
I've long been aware that privacy is dead if there is someone who is dedicated to breaking through it ... but that is only a small percentage of the population. You ought to be able to keep privacy from "most" of the population.


Then the fact that there is a facebook like button on this page should be of little importance to you. Unless you actually click the button, you're not broadcasting to the world what you like. Sure, Facebook (the company) knows, but they're a far cry from "most" of the population


You missed my point about how often, usually on a touch screen device, I manage to click on things I did not mean to click on, and often stay blissfully unaware that I have. Until the evidence shows up. This is a serious issue when you scroll Wrong Planet on a phone, or even on a iPad. Normally it simply results in a few open ad screens, or a watched thread one isn't all that interested in, but a Facebook link is more serious.


_________________
Mom to an amazing young adult AS son, plus an also amazing non-AS daughter. Most likely part of the "Broader Autism Phenotype" (some traits).