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In case you haven't noticed, your impugning me falls under the same category as far as I am concerned.



You are calling into question integrity when you are calling into question temperament and judgement. QED.




I'm saying you cannot defend your actions as a member, not as a mod, though modding while inebriated has just occurred to me. Alex certainly thought so, if I recall his reaction. It involved expletives, I recall.



Because I do not do this for power, but because I genuinely believe I am helping this site. And if you think that's BS, then you can just do inconvenient things to your own anatomy.




You wouldn't know clear facts if they gave you a bruise. And if you trust that we are decent people, then why go through this bloody palaver?

As for acting childish, I think you are. You all are.




Encouraged. That's what moderators are for. Moderating a topic means keeping it on track, especially when one is in real life, say, at a public assembly.



Not really, but thread-openers can contact us at any time and get the topic back on track, or lock the thread should we deem appropriate. As to MrMark's thread, that should be a private issue between you and him. It's only because you brought it out into the open, because you're a showpony. Can't resist strutting your viewpoint, even if you're wrong. You're an attention-freak. You even proclaim loudly in your signature that you're a spammer.



It is not a major error, but merely a lesser one of judgement, if that. And if you think we're doing a pretty decent job, then why keep on complaining, hmm?

I agree completely with this statement.
Once it becomes at all important to one,
they should stop. I know that 'twas becoming
difficult for me to walk away, and so I HAD to.
Otherwise, the power would have gone to my
head, I presume - as it has to others.



Well, perhaps it's simply a matter of MrMark
not being able to look at too many threads.
He has stated he's using dial-up, so he probably
can't watch even the amount of the site that I
look at, anymore. Frankly though, I think THIS is
a good thing, given his judgment.





It should be. There are very few things
which are so obviously over the line that
they require dealing with. The light touch.

No, he did not. I'm not certain, but I think the mod who did was instructed not to reverse my decisions again. Alex appears to have great faith in my judgement.

You see, ya'll don't have all the facts, but you have all the conclusions, and they're always negative conclusions.

While I don't know all the circumstances with Janicka's banning, Sopho and Starbuline were causing havoc. As for Alex's instructions, what bloody instructions? There were never any instructions. Show me these supposed instructions right here, right now, or stop going on about these mythical instructions.



Are you Welsh or Kiwi?

So, in other words, you think I am a raving megalomaniac, hmm?

I think this is a mistake though. It's compartmentalizing discussion
too much. And certainly, you should NOT have squelched the discussion
entirely. But, IF you do something like this, let me suggest adding a link
to where the new topic is. Part of the problem, as I see it, is that PPR has
gotten so BORING recently, that even Ragtime's given up on it. Those who
were fun posters there were either banned, or avoid it now. That's why so
many other areas wander into such discussions. Kinda like why there's the
adult in depth section - those of us who are childish and mercurial want to
post in a playful yet still intelligent manner on certain subjects, so they arise
where such people frequent. THIS is why things are tending off topic, IMO.
And a discussion of feminism is much more likely to do so than many other
issues in that section.



I believe you.

By "fun" you mean "trolls".

Again, I disagree with your analysis, and I'm not accountable to you.

Why they were unbanned then? If I remember correctly, at the time they were brought back, Alex posted saying a certain mod did things he didn't aprove, I can't say for sure, but according for what I heard that probably was MrMark, as I just heard from people saying this, I can't say for sure if it was really him though. But based on his attitude and his judgements one can speculate it could have been him.

Alex had a problem with the warnings I had issued.

I asked him straight out if he had unbanned these people and he gave me a straight "no."

Ah. Different definitions then. I'd simply say that
I'm questioning your capability. I find you honorable,
but unsuited for your position. Your skin is WAY too
thin for a mod, and you don't seem able to assess
what needs to be done. The mere fact that you're
throwing a hissy fit about being told this, is proof
enough of both, TBH.



I don't believe I made a single modding mistake
due to inebriation. He blew up about one of my
posts. One which I would have made sober, as well.
The expletives were on HIS part, not mine. I tend not
to lose my temper. 'Twas a questionable bit of levity,
on my part, but I knew the OP was a troll. One gets
a sense for such things, with enough exposure.


Clever to play with childish rude suggestions
by toning the words down. Quite sophomoric,
I'd say. Anyhow, look NO ONE grabs power
like some sort of movie villain. Even Hitler
thought he was doing what was best for
Germany. I'm not accusing you of being
worse than he was. One just gets blinded
by what they think is so RIGHT. Those who
know that they are in the right, and take actions
tend to be our tyrants. Power requires great reflection
and restraint.

Now, on to bullying, which is what this was about. Bully's
do what they do because it feels good. I'm sure that
you get some kind of warm glow out of threatening,
especially when you do it cleverly. Pride is not a virtue.



Because, whatever your intentions,
you make mistakes. There is a suitability
issue here. I hope to be able to help you
to see those.



This is just so damned funny, I couldn't go without quoting it.
Are you going to go claiming no one understands you next?



Again, this is a matter of site policy. It hasn't been that
way before. Maybe if you chase enough people away,
'twill be the kind of orderly place that you enjoy. Though,
you might be better off starting your own forum, and not
inviting anyone else, as they might break your rules.



No. Nothing would come of it that way. The issue NEEDED to
come out in the open. Even if I'm wrong, the membership needs
to understand just WHAT is going on. I'm simply on enough, and
have the flamboyance to both notice, and bring attention to the
travesties when they happen. I wish that there were more like
me here, but those who previously served in such a manner
tended to get overly emotional, and got themselves banned.
I KNOW that by simply disagreeing with the staff, I'm on thin
ice (ah, how I tried as a mod to encourage the opposite view,
and how quickly that failed once MrMark came back with his
threats), so I'm far more careful than either you are MrMark
in terms of the way I frame my answers. Just as I was when
performing as a moderator here.



Pretty decent ain't perfect. I'm sorry if you think that
you've achieved that state. It isn't a major issue. But,
the road to hell starts with a single step.

There's a fine line there. Trolls do tend
to be fun, but one can be edgy and humorous
without trolling, I think. Certainly without being
ban worthy.

Sure. But in a sense, you ARE accountable to the
membership. At least so far as how Alex views the
complaints which are brought against you. Which is
WHY this is being done publicly.

I did NOT unban anyone. I was certainly
under the impression that he did it, since
it was done without any general consensus
was achieved, as to what to do. He did state
that we could reverse one another's decisions
(which I think was an AWFUL thing to do), so
perhaps someone else did. If I was going to
unban, I would have done what I suggested,
and made a general amnesty.

I think THAT would have negated all the damage
caused.

I didn't say that you did. Despite the opinions of others, I'm still not inclined to discuss other members or mods.

I just wanted to clarify, in case you
(or anyone) had any doubts about the
matter. I wish I had known that Alex
hadn't done it, as that might have changed
some of my feelings. I had found it particularly
odd about the choices which were made - only
the most popular of the banees where chosen
to be rehabilitated. They actually would NOT
have been my first choices.