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27 Jul 2007, 2:41 pm

Honestly, I would pass administrative duties off to Mark here.


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27 Jul 2007, 2:44 pm

larsenjw92286 wrote:
Honestly, I would pass administrative duties off to Mark here.

My last post has nothing to do with MrMark or the situation at WP at present, larsenjw92286.



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27 Jul 2007, 2:46 pm

My name is Jason, and I think I am telling the truth!


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27 Jul 2007, 2:48 pm

ascan wrote:
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Laney wrote:
You have to be real tough sometimes to point your browser at a website !


Apparently tougher than the esteemed
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HaHa. At least I don't need the security of admin access before speaking my mind, nor a gaggle of attendant sycophants to follow my every post with "quoted for truth".

More than can be said for my detractors, eh? :wink:


I realize that you are not well liked there.
I have NO idea why, and don't want to
pull up the posts. But, whatever has happened,
you managed to annoy the group mind there -
and it really is something like that, in some ways.
Oh, not everyone, but ideas which aren't their cup
of tea can get you heavily flamed. Big deal.

And, given the way the site operates, being an
admin doesn't give any particular protection. If
the membership saw anything like abuse of admin
power, it would be total rebellion OR mass defection
to somewhere else. We had trouble with the idea
of deleting atomik spam attacks, on the grounds
of free speech.



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27 Jul 2007, 2:50 pm

Who?

Oh, I understand!

I know that at least someone disapproved of me not being here!


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27 Jul 2007, 2:56 pm

ascan wrote:
You can't have any degree of freedom of speech where lynch mob justice prevails.



calandale wrote:
But, whatever has happened,
you managed to annoy the group mind there -



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27 Jul 2007, 2:56 pm

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the membership saw anything like abuse of admin
power, it would be total rebellion OR mass defection
to somewhere else...

Hmm... like when dunc was altering the content of Omega_female's posts in order to settle a score?

And nobody batted an eyelid (figuratively speaking).

Or, when dunc used the newsbox at the site's front page to attack me week on week? Though I was quite flattered at the time.



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27 Jul 2007, 2:58 pm

I wonder where he is, anyway!


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27 Jul 2007, 3:03 pm

TheMachine1 wrote:
ascan wrote:
You can't have any degree of freedom of speech where lynch mob justice prevails.



calandale wrote:
But, whatever has happened,
you managed to annoy the group mind there -


Yeah, I'm not denying it. It's one of the good things
about the recent influx of members. More variety.
People there generally seem to frown on certain things,
and it can be a royal pain to deal with at times.



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27 Jul 2007, 3:06 pm

ascan wrote:
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... If
the membership saw anything like abuse of admin
power, it would be total rebellion OR mass defection
to somewhere else...

Hmm... like when dunc was altering the content of Omega_female's posts in order to settle a score?

And nobody batted an eyelid (figuratively speaking).

Or, when dunc used the newsbox at the site's front page to attack me week on week? Though I was quite flattered at the time.


I know nothing about the past history.
Just as I don't judge Alex by his detractors
from the past, I'll not judge these people
either. Nor you. A lot of people have personal
reasons for their feelings, and until I see some
reason to really distrust someone, I tend to keep
an open mind about them.

But, I've seen nothing of the sort recently,
under the current administration of the site.



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27 Jul 2007, 3:07 pm

larsenjw92286 wrote:
I wonder where he is, anyway!


Dunc? He's still there.

You should visit.



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27 Jul 2007, 3:09 pm

calandale wrote:
TheMachine1 wrote:
ascan wrote:
You can't have any degree of freedom of speech where lynch mob justice prevails.



calandale wrote:
But, whatever has happened,
you managed to annoy the group mind there -


Yeah, I'm not denying it. It's one of the good things
about the recent influx of members. More variety.
People there generally seem to frown on certain things,
and it can be a royal pain to deal with at times.


But the premise ascan is making is your freedom of speech is an illusion. You have the freedom to say "QFT" to the mob and if you have a different opinion you are driven away.



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27 Jul 2007, 3:11 pm

Where?

Also, if Alex reads this thread, what will he think?


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27 Jul 2007, 4:39 pm

TheMachine1 wrote:
calandale wrote:
TheMachine1 wrote:
ascan wrote:
You can't have any degree of freedom of speech where lynch mob justice prevails.



calandale wrote:
But, whatever has happened,
you managed to annoy the group mind there -


Yeah, I'm not denying it. It's one of the good things
about the recent influx of members. More variety.
People there generally seem to frown on certain things,
and it can be a royal pain to deal with at times.


But the premise ascan is making is your freedom of speech is an illusion. You have the freedom to say "QFT" to the mob and if you have a different opinion you are driven away.

Agreed.


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27 Jul 2007, 4:47 pm

TheMachine1 wrote:
calandale wrote:
TheMachine1 wrote:
ascan wrote:
You can't have any degree of freedom of speech where lynch mob justice prevails.



calandale wrote:
But, whatever has happened,
you managed to annoy the group mind there -


Yeah, I'm not denying it. It's one of the good things
about the recent influx of members. More variety.
People there generally seem to frown on certain things,
and it can be a royal pain to deal with at times.


But the premise ascan is making is your freedom of speech is an illusion. You have the freedom to say "QFT" to the mob and if you have a different opinion you are driven away.


I understand that he's saying that. I claim that it's
wrong. I've had a pack of them on me there. A couple
of times. If you roll up your sleeves and fight it out,
they end up respecting you more. At least that's my
impression. Ascan walked away with a different one.



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27 Jul 2007, 4:47 pm

I'm beginning to wonder about a lot!


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