antifa= terrorist PPR thread

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Well earth presumably to you...who is even listentening to Trump. Ole Trump doesn't have a clue what is going on, he's just unhappy about it. More and more kind of seems like states are just starting to ignore him more. He wanted to have a big right winger convention in North Carolina, but now they have to move it because North Carollina would not garantee that there would be no social distancing regulations or mask wearing requirements.

He wanted to send the military to help deal with the George Floyd protests here in Colorado, but last I heard my state government basically told him to f**k off.

The President cannot designate a domestic group as terrorists. There are no domestic groups on the US terror list. The Ku Klux Klan has never been listed. This isn’t even the first time Trump has tried to list Antifa. So there are no legal ramifications because Trump’s fantasies have no legal standing.

We do have far-right members on here. They’re not allowed to advocate for Nazism but we do have an agreement that they can use the forums if they stick to the rules.

And therein lies the difference - those organisations are racist, which breaks WrongPlanet rules, while Antifa is anti-racist (although one could reasonably argue how successfully!) and doesn’t currently break WrongPlanet rules.

There are known nazi's on Wrong Planet ? - Oh My Days

News to me.

Your sarcastic comments are noted.

Very funny. I am not aware of any professed neo-nazi members on WP. Granted I've only been here two years, but no member comes to mind. Perhaps I will stand corrected, but I mean actual self-professed neo-nazis; not the practice of labeling anyone who has "conservative" views on certain things to be a neo-nazi. Thankfully I haven't seen that here too much since that kind of inane stereotyping shouldn't be allowed either.

For what it's worth I've never personally met a neo-nazi in my entire life. I understand they exist, however I've never met one.

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There are a few whom I suspect of embracing Naziism in some way; but only the moderators seem to know for certain.

If there are neo-nazi members on WP but they're known only to the mods, then why was my comment saying I'm not aware of any here sarcastic since I'm not a mod? I think I need to finish my cup of morning coffee so I'm firing on all cylinders if I'm missing something.

My experience: it usually is this way, they keep participating in neutral threads as regular members, less so in controversial ones. But I've also seen on at least one forum the rule that once a moderator participates as a regular member in a debate or highly controversial topic or is known for having a very strong position in such a matter, they will ask a colleague to act as moderator, instead of doing it themselves, as even more balanced people will have a hard time being objective in these conditions Not only this protects the membership to a higher extent, it also protects the mods from unfair accusations of bias.




It has been stated by the mod team and written in the TOS that calling anybody an "ignorant bigot" is against the rules, whether they are one or not. I can understand how this can happen in the heat of the moment with someone who's engaging in personal attacks themselves (should still be addressed), but I've seen it happen more than once in the middle of a perfectly civilised discussion, to people with a flawless record who politely disagreed with a mod's opinion when they were posting as a regular member. This discourages civilised members from participating in controversial topics, while paradoxically encouraging those with the "right opinions" to engage in personal attacks themselves. As you know, some people leave, some stop posting and since the forum has been bleeding valuable people for a long time along with trolls, this can end up either killing this place or turning it into a very small echo-chamber.




Personally, I'm starting to have some doubts if that's the case. It's often stated in such discussions that "most" of those who discuss how the rules are applied, are either protesting about how they have been applied to them or are problematic posters who cause trouble or have extreme beliefs. This puts rule-following, insightful and respectable participants as Isabella or Magna in a dubious light if they politely ask a question about how the rules are enforced. It also makes me wonder how much the effort they put towards the quality of their posts and behaviour here is actually valued at all. Also, just in my opinion, threads discussing such incidents not only don't lead to any changes but also appear to create a bias/grudge against those who participate in them.

For reference, since you're new here: I don't hold "Nazi beliefs" or right-wing beliefs, nevermind extreme ones and I consider the extreme left to be just as dangerous as the extreme right. I also self-censor my posts here and hold myself to a high standard in regards to how I express myself and never got a single warning or post removed for rule-breaking in all my years here. Although I wouldn't be surprised if the last part would change soon

^For the record, Walrus allowed the "ignorant bigot" comment to remain when a member asked him politely to remove. He claimed it didn't violate TOS. That's the whole issue. He moderates with extreme political bias.

Obama did.

Antifa promotes violence and hating anyone not antifa.
Why don’t you allow Incels? Cause you say they promote violence
Well so does antifa.

All our mods are far left bias. Any right leaning or centrist mods are gone. Most our right leaning members as such are banned.
Now centrist like me and you are seen as right leaning.
It’s like how college students attack their liberal professors due to them not being liberal enough by their far left standards. If centerist are removed like the right leaning, next will probably be anyone left but not far left enough. Like kk or isa.
The mods are like the Supreme Court. And this is why it’s best the court remains balance. But Alex doesn’t care enough to put in either unbiased mods or have a balance of left and right leaning mods.

Apparently this isn’t a personal attack when a leftist says if
Guarantees if I said that or vegi said it we’d be banned
In fact I alsmost just copied and edited it and posted it back but I know I’d get banned. This biased unfair modding needs to stop.

I’ve got proof a mod handled it and deemed it ok, so maybe I’ll just go around repeating it to others and putting the imagine of mod approval underneath it.

This kind of s**ts fine, calling me racist, nazi, is fine. I’m tired of it.

There is a awesome new Antifa thread in news forum,featuring and actual leaked email from the Mayoral office.

Quit b*":';:in here and check out the new thread

I didn't call you a racist or a nazi. I said you are ignorant about the protests...I fail to see how its a personal attack to say someone is ignorant on an issue. I realize it was ranty and angry but I was upset so it came out that way.

Now of course since the mods edited my post not to say you are ignorant I guess I will make a note that its considered a personal attack to say someone is ignorant about a topic and never say it here again.

My only question is why are you lying about me calling you a nazi or racist when I never said that?

It's not respectful.