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08 Aug 2020, 8:51 am

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One way to make WP better is to not harp on semantics all the time.

It makes for an unpleasant atmosphere here.


And what do you actually mean by "harp"? :mrgreen:

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Just as there will always be people who pretend to know the intent and motivations of others without ever having met them, and without ever having earned the appropriate credentials to do so.


It's a gift.
What can I say? :shrug: :mrgreen:


Isn't harp a cannon?


It is , or was.


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08 Aug 2020, 10:23 am

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Vast quote trees will NOT make WP appealing to most who sign up here.

Depth of thought involves making written matter understandable to most who read it.

Asperger's Syndrome involves social interaction, communication and imagination difficulties such as not being able to relate well with most people, and I feel and think in long chain information streams and clearly you are able to communicate well in short chain ones.

Do you feel and think in long chain information streams or are you gifted with being able to relate in short chain ones naturally (?) ~ because for me it is like trying to put both of my legs in one trouser leg and walk with an even measured gate!


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08 Aug 2020, 11:04 am

It’s okay.

I know people have varying styles and modes of communication.

I wasn’t criticizing you specifically.



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08 Aug 2020, 3:19 pm

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I am diagnosed with AS.

My mental state makes me have the AS characteristic of "preoccupation with order, lists, and formalities".

"Order" must come across in my posts.

That is what I do here.

I am not here for social, political, or autism.


I get "relief" from my condition by engaging in concepts, and putting them into an order in my mind.

Often, I will make lists of a-c or 1-3 with relevant information.

Often, I will post an accompanying picture, because I feel my words are messy.


Thanks for posting this. I've always wondered why the numbers posts were so popular. Makes total sense.

Thanks, I wish more people posted about their autism, and why they participate.

On the surface, it seems like a lot people are actually seeking a social experience.


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08 Aug 2020, 3:27 pm

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... I wish more people posted about their autism, and why they participate.
A lot of my earlier posts were just that, but I found myself repeat-posting (even copy-pasting) and I felt stuck in a rut.
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On the surface, it seems like a lot people are actually seeking a social experience.
In a way, yes.  If not for WP, I would have to contend only with 'normal' people, and you know what a real pain they can be sometimes.  At least here, if things get too weird, I can just go away for a few days and no one will miss me (I once logged off for 7 months before someone posted "Where's Fnord?").  If I did that in real life, I could lose my job, my marriage, and what few friends I have.


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08 Aug 2020, 3:31 pm

Of years I have been here, I have not been noticed and I have not seen my name mentioned. When someone would do a thread on me, I got very little responses.

I'm used to not being popular or not liked. It was that way too when I was a kid and I tried different personalities and that didn't work. People can tell when your behavior is fake or when you are just copying others "to be cool." So that might have been my problem right there when I was a kid and why no matter how nice I acted and mimicked niceness, I was still an outcast and still different.


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08 Aug 2020, 3:35 pm

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kraftiekortie wrote:
Vast quote trees will NOT make WP appealing to most who sign up here.

Depth of thought involves making written matter understandable to most who read it.

Asperger's Syndrome involves social interaction, communication and imagination difficulties such as not being able to relate well with most people, and I feel and think in long chain information streams and clearly you are able to communicate well in short chain ones.

Do you feel and think in long chain information streams or are you gifted with being able to relate in short chain ones naturally (?) ~ because for me it is like trying to put both of my legs in one trouser leg and walk with an even measured gate!


Interesting, thank you for explaining. Understanding and accepting ourselves is liberating. Yes kraftie can be very concise and to the point. I like both of your ways of expressing yourselves. I am a pretty convoluted thinker myself and often shift from one topic to another.


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08 Aug 2020, 3:44 pm

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Of years I have been here, I have not been noticed and I have not seen my name mentioned. When someone would do a thread on me, I got very little responses.

I'm used to not being popular or not liked. It was that way too when I was a kid and I tried different personalities and that didn't work. People can tell when your behavior is fake or when you are just copying others "to be cool." So that might have been my problem right there when I was a kid and why no matter how nice I acted and mimicked niceness, I was still an outcast and still different.


I have noticed you League_Girl. I am sorry that you feel that way. I have an aspie friend who seems to say inappropriate things sometimes. Knowing someone in person helps to see the whole dimension of their personna. My aspie friends (especially the males) are really blunt and ineffectual at written communication they do much better face to face.


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08 Aug 2020, 4:03 pm

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Of years I have been here, I have not been noticed and I have not seen my name mentioned. When someone would do a thread on me, I got very little responses.

I'm used to not being popular or not liked. It was that way too when I was a kid and I tried different personalities and that didn't work. People can tell when your behavior is fake or when you are just copying others "to be cool." So that might have been my problem right there when I was a kid and why no matter how nice I acted and mimicked niceness, I was still an outcast and still different.


I have noticed you League_Girl. I am sorry that you feel that way. I have an aspie friend who seems to say inappropriate things sometimes. Knowing someone in person helps to see the whole dimension of their personna. My aspie friends (especially the males) are really blunt and ineffectual at written communication they do much better face to face.



I do probably have a male way of communicating since my gender has been questioned online at other places.

I never saw male and female language, text is just text so I would have no way of understanding how does a woman talk and how does a man talk.


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08 Aug 2020, 4:06 pm

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There will always be a proportional few "Look how bad . . . see if you can stop me!" boundary testers that have not had their primary needs for affection and intimacy met, as had to seek or steal facilitation and affirmation by way of domination and negation instead ~ i.e., breaking a window or upseting and angering people in order to be treated as significant or even existential...
Just as there will always be people who pretend to know the intent and motivations of others without ever having met them, and without ever having earned the appropriate credentials to do so.

It is fascinating that people imagine they know people on the basis of just written statements ~ as it would not apply even with however many qualifications could be attained. Characteristics or traits can be ascertained such as psychological typology and writing style and all that ~ but no matter how many of those may be known they are only a hint of what is to be known.


I have a saying and my saying is if you think a kid is a brat, anything they do will be malicious.

One of mine is that there is the lesser evil and the lesser good as in their own way portray the greater good in each and every person, with the lesser evil and good being the human embodiment and greater good being the embodied being.

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That is how I feel about people in general when they have a negative opinion about someone.

Another saying in sarcastic self resignation is "The problem of wearing welding goggles in the thick of night . . . " ~ as used equally as much about myself and as with and about others.

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I suspect it goes on here too when I see weird accusations being thrown around at other members indirectly.

It is a normal disposition in that many people on the spectrum and those who are otherwise divergent do not so much (or at all) receive the facilitation and affirmation they require as children ~ in terms of being individual ~ being that only the neurologically typical in general get that in terms of being part of the collective.

Us strangers in a strange land get more condemnation and negation in terms of being socially 'programmed' (educated) and sociologically 'conditioned' (experienced) with the linguistic narrative of ourselves being more wrong than right ~ so coming into an autistic collective with that programming and conditioning results in this sociological microcosm reflecting the microcosm.


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08 Aug 2020, 4:27 pm

League_Girl wrote:
Of years I have been here, I have not been noticed and I have not seen my name mentioned. When someone would do a thread on me, I got very little responses.

I'm used to not being popular or not liked. It was that way too when I was a kid and I tried different personalities and that didn't work. People can tell when your behavior is fake or when you are just copying others "to be cool." So that might have been my problem right there when I was a kid and why no matter how nice I acted and mimicked niceness, I was still an outcast and still different.



I didn't stand out as much as some kids, but I could never entirely stay under the radar. I was overweight when I was young and got teased for it by the popular girls and I got shunned and picked on by the popular boys because I wasn't good at sports or hockey in particular. It seems like every athletic guy who's parents divorced made me his punching bag, and nobody gave a s**t. When I retaliated I'd get in trouble at school and then again at home. I started jumping them in the bathroom, or knocking them off the top of the playground equipment or behind the portables which usually just meant I'd get to deal with a pack later on, although at this point it was more likely to end in a shoving and yelling match but no real fighting.

I wrote a lot more but I didn't want to make this my autobiography. :mrgreen:


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08 Aug 2020, 5:38 pm

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League_Girl wrote:
Of years I have been here, I have not been noticed and I have not seen my name mentioned. When someone would do a thread on me, I got very little responses.

I'm used to not being popular or not liked. It was that way too when I was a kid and I tried different personalities and that didn't work. People can tell when your behavior is fake or when you are just copying others "to be cool." So that might have been my problem right there when I was a kid and why no matter how nice I acted and mimicked niceness, I was still an outcast and still different.



I didn't stand out as much as some kids, but I could never entirely stay under the radar. I was overweight when I was young and got teased for it by the popular girls and I got shunned and picked on by the popular boys because I wasn't good at sports or hockey in particular. It seems like every athletic guy who's parents divorced made me his punching bag, and nobody gave a s**t. When I retaliated I'd get in trouble at school and then again at home. I started jumping them in the bathroom, or knocking them off the top of the playground equipment or behind the portables which usually just meant I'd get to deal with a pack later on, although at this point it was more likely to end in a shoving and yelling match but no real fighting.

I wrote a lot more but I didn't want to make this my autobiography. :mrgreen:


have yet to meet someone IRL who genuinely minds when a person is bullied in the usual way-esp kids, apart from their parents at the most. and usually just one parent.

if bullying is overt even then..but at odd times you read of the overt type being put in their place or whatever..consequences..
but again it's the fact that majority tolerates, and accepts, and even defends, bullies.


just as the lie becomes truth --
because outing the liar risks the rest of the chain of deceit / those who benefit from deceit, being picked apart.

unless they're TOLD to defend a certain type of target by someone else (eg media, even if subconsciously picked up with fiction - movies/tv shows) that's when people seem to care. "trending"...

otherwise, hey--

they might even watch someone getting their ribs broken and not care, or even be pleased about it, no matter how educated they are.

must be part of the
survival instinct. follow or be shot down.


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08 Aug 2020, 5:55 pm

Reports of WP's dying are greatly exaggerated.

This is the 38th page about how to make WP better.


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08 Aug 2020, 6:14 pm

Teach51 wrote:
Deepthought 7 wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Vast quote trees will NOT make WP appealing to most who sign up here.

Depth of thought involves making written matter understandable to most who read it.

Asperger's Syndrome involves social interaction, communication and imagination difficulties such as not being able to relate well with most people, and I feel and think in long chain information streams and clearly you are able to communicate well in short chain ones.

Do you feel and think in long chain information streams or are you gifted with being able to relate in short chain ones naturally (?) ~ because for me it is like trying to put both of my legs in one trouser leg and walk with an even measured gate!


Interesting, thank you for explaining. Understanding and accepting ourselves is liberating. Yes kraftie can be very concise and to the point. I like both of your ways of expressing yourselves. I am a pretty convoluted thinker myself and often shift from one topic to another.


to me you have always seemed on topic, and probably good executive functioning for that
with the way you respond concisely and PRECISELY , a smoothness-

filtering out the junk when really of course it does make more sense to - in a social way as this place is meant to be--

rather than taking things out of bounds --
etc.

it may be a learned skill but it's something that is admirable,


when i noticed it in you and other users including kraftiekortie, Temeraire, etc.


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08 Aug 2020, 6:21 pm

I was bullied in the “usual way” as a child/adolescent.

And I hate it when someone else is bullied in the “usual” way.



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08 Aug 2020, 6:26 pm

I was bullied a few times as a kid sometimes with a knife and been in the thick of it with domestic & psychological abuse

It is a bit of trigger for me if I witness it :roll:


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