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27 Apr 2007, 3:33 am

And now I feel like crying. And I'm being serious. I know what this is going to turn into. :cry:


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27 Apr 2007, 5:24 am

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Great, thanks for telling me what I should do, there. I guess I'll just keep wading through the 1500000 "Kiss a random member's ass!" and "b***h about your day on a scale of 0 to -50!" to find the three posts per day that I find interesting or relevent towards my life. Thanks for summing up how I should feel about a forum ostensibly designed for a person with Asperger's to find a group to relate to. Guess it was easy enough for both of you, though. Maybe my problem is that I'm not stoked enough about Final Fantasy or roleplaying to appreciate wrongplanet.

*Stops voicing his opinion and making any suggestion of any kind so that the internet is saved from the excessive disregard for bandwidth represented by the addition of an extra forum to wrongplanet*

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my guess is that the threads that you're interested are not going to be in the same section as "kiss a random member's ass" (has it gotten that bad yet?). Between the school, work, adult, and dating threads, you probably have what you want. The older people are really more interested in a division like what you suggest anyways, splitting the adult section so that there is some space for the older of us. Personally, I'm not thrilled with additional fragmentation, but there seems to be empirical evidence supporting what they desire - a couple of threads which are bursting at their seams. I don't see anything like that about the issues that you're mentioning.



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27 Apr 2007, 5:30 am

yeah i agree about the 'post whore' threads, people who just have to post continually (but have nothing to say, generally) it's tedious when you click on 'view posts since my last visit' and there's like 8 pages, of which 80% are post whore threads.



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27 Apr 2007, 2:09 pm

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Between the school, work, adult, and dating threads, you probably have what you want.


Yeah, once I make my way through pearls of wisdom from younger members such as "OMG This fight is scary it makes me want to cry in a corner" or "Don't offer up suggestions in the criticism thread, everything is fine because your criticism doesn't apply to me." If the older aspies have a point then I have a point, just the way if I were to walk into a room full of people of all ages and try to make conversation VS walking into a roomful of people in their twenties. It doesn't apply to one group and not the other, just because they have a bunch of really long threads abut themselves.. The reason we have almost no prescence on this site is just exactly what I'm trying to address; you can't lump in what I think about dating, school, or kissing a random member's ass with what some 16 year old has to say about it, it's discouraging, anyway.



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27 Apr 2007, 2:43 pm

There is an adolescent forum -- right above the kid's crater.



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27 Apr 2007, 3:31 pm

maldoror wrote:
calandale wrote:
Between the school, work, adult, and dating threads, you probably have what you want.


Yeah, once I make my way through pearls of wisdom from younger members such as "OMG This fight is scary it makes me want to cry in a corner" or "Don't offer up suggestions in the criticism thread, everything is fine because your criticism doesn't apply to me." If the older aspies have a point then I have a point, just the way if I were to walk into a room full of people of all ages and try to make conversation VS walking into a roomful of people in their twenties. It doesn't apply to one group and not the other, just because they have a bunch of really long threads abut themselves.. The reason we have almost no prescence on this site is just exactly what I'm trying to address; you can't lump in what I think about dating, school, or kissing a random member's ass with what some 16 year old has to say about it, it's discouraging, anyway.


Because making a section for a specific age group is a fool-proof way of keeping people not in that age group out, right?

I understand where you're coming from on this, so don't take what I say to imply otherwise, but this is senseless. It would be analogous to the men's / women's discussion, both sexes post in both boards all the time. Making a sub-forum for an age group (whichever yours is, I don't keep track of everyone's ages) would simply provide a place to discuss issues or experiences of people in said age-group. It won't stop others from commenting.

Besides, sure, at times younger members can be irritating. At times older members can be irritating. At times members of the same age can be irritating. Members of any age can also surprise you at times, and post something worthwhile. So there's stuff that you don't think applies to you or that isn't relevant to what you want to discuss. I'm sure everyone feels that way, at least from time to time.



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27 Apr 2007, 3:35 pm

duh



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27 Apr 2007, 7:42 pm

Personally, I haven't seen any of those threads in the School and Adolescent forums pop up very frequently. They aren't as active as Random and Autism are and I've never seen the list of new posts there amount to more than a fifth of a page on the topic list, so introducing some threads of your desire shouldn't be that bad.


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27 Apr 2007, 8:26 pm

shadexiii wrote:

I understand where you're coming from on this, so don't take what I say to imply otherwise, but this is senseless. It would be analogous to the men's / women's discussion, both sexes post in both boards all the time. Making a sub-forum for an age group (whichever yours is, I don't keep track of everyone's ages) would simply provide a place to discuss issues or experiences of people in said age-group. It won't stop others from commenting.


It's fine that you think that, but I don't agree. I don't see the analogy, because it's only natural to expect people to post in gender opposite forums if you don't keep them out, but you don't see kids in the adult forum or adults in the kid forum. Anyway, we all know that it would be easy to enforce the privacy of those forums if we wanted to. It seems counterproductive to me to make a site this large that caters to this wide group of people and expect them to all be on the same wavelength; there's not much capacity for useful support or advice this way. Besides, people have been pointing how out overwhelming the number of topics is, and the site just gets bigger. I think it's a good site but it would be better if a person could find more of a niche. Another forum is just another forum that sits there on the page and you don't have to look at if you don't want to, so I don't understand what the big backlash is, although I also don't expect to actually see that forum, but whatever, my point's been made.



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27 Apr 2007, 9:04 pm

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Anyway, we all know that it would be easy to enforce the privacy of those forums if we wanted to.


No, not all of us. I'd sure like to know how it would be easy to "enforce privacy," and I doubt I'm alone in that.



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27 Apr 2007, 9:21 pm

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Anyway, we all know that it would be easy to enforce the privacy of those forums if we wanted to.


No, not all of us. I'd sure like to know how it would be easy to "enforce privacy," and I doubt I'm alone in that.


*Spells it out*

...by restricting entrance to the forums to their respective genders?



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27 Apr 2007, 9:27 pm

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*Spells it out*

...by restricting entrance to the forums to their respective genders?


And this would work since it is impossible to make multiple accounts, and nobody lies on the internet. Thanks for making it so clear though, I was really confused as to what you might have in mind. That's some revolutionary thinking there.

I don't think anyone wants a police state here. More restrictions, less information. Less information, less chances to benefit from differing perspectives.



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27 Apr 2007, 9:42 pm

shadexiii wrote:
maldoror wrote:

*Spells it out*

...by restricting entrance to the forums to their respective genders?


And this would work since it is impossible to make multiple accounts, and nobody lies on the internet. Thanks for making it so clear though, I was really confused as to what you might have in mind. That's some revolutionary thinking there.


Yeah, but the only kinds of people who do that are those overzealous internet jockey types. You know, the kind of people who beat spent debates into the ground just for the sake of convincing themselves that they're right about something, and for an encore, troll around after the guy they debate with and heckle him; they're the only kind of people who waste time conceiving of something that pointless.

Of course, we don't seem to have any of them here at WP, but if we did, and they were find themselves in a spat with a misanthropic fellow who's had a bad day, well I guess that would just then be bad.



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27 Apr 2007, 9:47 pm

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Yeah, but the only kinds of people who do that are those overzealous internet jockey types. You know, the kind of people who beat spent debates into the ground just for the sake of convincing themselves that they're right about something, and for an encore, troll around after the guy they debate with and heckle him; they're the only kind of people who waste time conceiving of something that pointless.

Of course, we don't seem to have any of them here at WP, but if we did, and they were find themselves in a spat with a misanthropic fellow who's had a bad day, well I guess that would just then be bad.

Cute. Lovely assumptions as well.

I wasn't trolling you in the other thread, I simply find your claim there to be far-fetched. Feel free to use an ad hominem if it makes you feel better. It wasn't heckling you, if you took it as such, well, I suppose you want an apology?

That's true, stating one's opinion or a disagreement is pointless. I guess you have wasted a lot of time as well. So you've had a bad day, is that an attempt for pity? And no, I'm not excited that you had a bad day, if anything I'm sorry to hear that. That doesn't mean I'm going to put on the padded gloves if I think some of your points are complete and utter s**t.