College isn't a good fit for someone with Asperger's
My advice to you: hard as it may sound but you might want to consider a different career path/college study all together. Perhaps one that doesn't require hands-on or socially demanding activities. If you want to stay in your plane of interests you can always try being a researcher or your interests or study something that involves less personal interaction.
Well, I have a lot of interests, which probably means that I don't have Asperger's at all, but I was trying to figure out a balance between both the arts and the sciences for this next time around. Really, I was considering Civil Engineering with Landscape Architecture as a double major, perhaps? and Traditional Architecture in grad school or maybe Urban & Environmental Planning, so that I can be well-rounded in the field, but honestly, my interest in architecture and structure design is about as great as any other field of study. I'm fairly obsessed with research and learning about things, all things. I've always been terribly fond of Linguistics and Computer Programming and Psychology and Nutrition and Business/Finance *shrugs* It's a complicated decision, trying to make plans at an early stage in your life to document your whole future. As I get older, the retirement age will be increasing, which means I will probably be working within the career-field I've been educated through my 80's and possibly into my 90's.
I understand now that even though I'm artistic and creative, I do not belong amongst art students and should never attempt an arts school, so I need to stick to something academic but not socially demanding as a career, yet something that allows me to think and solve problems/be creative daily. A lot of students are less than happy about attending college because they don't even want to be there...they feel pressure from their family through expectations or societal pressure of the requirement to receive a formal education in order to be successful. They go to school and do as little as possible to get by, because they just want to hurry up and graduate to be independent -- that it's just a means to an end. The way they feel about school is how I feel about work in general. I would rather stay in school forever absorbing everything, because the idea of working and feeling stuck because of responsibility and obligations just seems so depressing, like it would drain the life from your veins.
I need to speak with an academic counselor about the best options to fit my criteria, because I have to handle school as the rest of them do, as a means to an end...it's about quickly getting the degree and going off to work until you die.
P.S. I agree with you about studying the arts. It's the reason I have been straying from it all my life, but I keep coming back to it in the logic that everyone can be book-smart if they applied themselves, but not everyone can be creative. I thought it was my "calling" or something, but a calling wouldn't be based in logic, it would be feeling. I think of schooling in the arts as tedious, because it can either be regarded as too structured or not formal enough, depending on how you view it. It strips the joy of art and makes it work but lacks technique, and honestly, I normally wouldn't consider school to be work, at all....the process itself is enjoyable for me. I just happen to be a bit too fearful of the elements involved.
if you did civil with architecture you could emphasize in computer modeling and urban planning which would allow you to explore your more artistic side which still remaining among more math and science minded individuals. For internships you can work with companies in GIS and AutoCAD programs or conduct research projects in modeling environmentally sound city planning, or incorporating architecture from other countries into the rebuilding of structures damaged by natural disasters.
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Thank you for such a detailed offering. It was very well-thought and sounds like a dream profession. ^_^
I'll do some research into schools and the courses offered to see where I could attend that could most easily lead me down such a path. I like the idea of a multidimensional career, allows more variety -- I tend to lose focus if lacking cerebral stimulation.
Had my first class today, and it wasn't so bad. Think I may have made a mistake by talking to the teacher at the end, however. I should've probably just stayed anonymous. Now he knows my name and offered to lend me his book while I wait on mine to be delivered in the mail -- if I'm lucky, by the end of next week. He is a math-genius, very scatterbrained, maybe with Asperger's, so hopefully I didn't make a poor impression. I wouldn't mind continuing with him as my professor through all of my math studies at that school provided things go well this semester.
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Thank you for such a detailed offering. It was very well-thought and sounds like a dream profession. ^_^
I'll do some research into schools and the courses offered to see where I could attend that could most easily lead me down such a path. I like the idea of a multidimensional career, allows more variety -- I tend to lose focus if lacking cerebral stimulation.
Had my first class today, and it wasn't so bad. Think I may have made a mistake by talking to the teacher at the end, however. I should've probably just stayed anonymous. Now he knows my name and offered to lend me his book while I wait on mine to be delivered in the mail -- if I'm lucky, by the end of next week. He is a math-genius, very scatterbrained, maybe with Asperger's, so hopefully I didn't make a poor impression. I wouldn't mind continuing with him as my professor through all of my math studies at that school provided things go well this semester.
Mathematicians are one of the more open groups towards mental issues. Probably because we have the highest rate of mental problems aside from artists. People still cite the work of Ted K (Unabomber) even though most non-mathies find it "distasteful". He may have been a douche, but he was a brilliant douche.
I should be getting a job for Civil Engineering doing GIS, within the next couple of weeks. The internship I did was unpaid, but it got me hired. Unpaid internships are really good for getting in the door and landing a job later.
GIS is actually quite fun. The amount of information is impressive and you can work closely with autocad and even in 3d. If you want to learn some on your own you can go to esri.com
They have a bunch of classes you can take. Some are free, some have only the first module free, and some are pay. But if you do the free ones you can get a good handle on the program.
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You might want to see if the school will work with you, especially through the disability center. I've been going (off and on) to a fairly small college and my work schedule gets changed pretty randomly, so some of my professors (not all unfortunately) have worked with me since I was upfront with them about my work issues and such. A lot of them accepted e-mailed submissions and would provide very detailed course synopses when asked so I could work ahead to give me some leeway encase something came up (like a meltdown ugh
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Shop around for some colleges further away that one closer will except credits from. The amount of distant learning courses available very a lot from college to college. Just make sure to find out if they require testing to be done at the college or a proxy because that can kind of be a pain (found that out the hard way with a class that required weekly on campus tests, kind of defeated the purpose of it being available on line if you ask me)
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I had a similar experience when I was a Theatre major for my first two years. Arts programs can be tough and competative, even for someone without AS. I had several theatre professors who disliked me, and it was mainly because I was and am more of an independent, literary-minded person. Instead of supporting that and offering to let me write for the department, they treated everything like a popularity contest and only the starlet girls got their attention.
So I became an English major and it was one of the best decisions of my life.
I agree with barbedlotus. Check out the school's disability program and they should be able to help you. I know it may seem daunting to do that, but schools have those types of programs for this reason. I've found that it doesn't hurt to tell people, "Hey, it really upsets me that you say this because..." If you're really working to your full potential, let them know that. And if they keep pushing you too hard, there are other schools out there, and other major programs to try.
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I always had a problem knowing what to do with my arms/hands and seem natural without over-gesturing. Never watched myself perform, so maybe I as just being self-conscious. I tend to have an overly charismatic voice and an expressive face, so those aren't problems for me. But with plays, you are required to project a stronger than life personality for your character. Basically, I have my quiet, shy, withdrawn mode where I'm awkward and detached, and my other mode, which is completely opposite, to overcome my social deficiencies. I can't just be "normal," but that makes the perfect acting personality, caricaturizing what I observe in others. Often, I've been described as a cartoon character.
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One week of school down, several to go. It's actually okay so far. I feel out of place, though, because of my age, and other things, like being white. My math teacher probably has Asperger's. He is the absent-minded professor, probably a reflection of what I will be at 60, except as a female. My English teacher is very strict, but I made it known to her that I have Asperger's, without explanation of what it is, though the expression on her face seemed to show knowledge of it. My Spanish teacher is incompetent and ended up getting me screwed out of over $100 of my financial aid. He is also extremely callous and no more than 25. My sociology teacher seems nice by what I've read from her posts, though I think she is ignoring me, but that's okay. I will just do my assignments and everything should be fine. I still need to find a good time to sit down with an academic counselor for a consultation concerning possible major options that are attainable. Initially, I was intending to study engineering, but it will be very difficult for me to complete the math requirements by the end of my sophomore year. By the end, I will also run over the 90 attempted credit hours for my financial aid funding if I pursued this. I have 24 attempted hours in performing arts tacked to my transcript from my previous time spent in college.
I haven't had a panic attack at school yet...came close to it twice when having to deal with the bookstore, and almost in Spanish class, but instead I walked out and left early. Overall, things are better than imagined, and will probably remain so, as long as I'm not forced into being social with my classmates.
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Projecting my voice was hard. I have a quiet voice, unless I'm full of caffiene, so when I was actually cast in things, I always had soda backstage.
I'm glad to read that everything's okay so far, neopsytox! Just keep taking deep breaths and don't be afraid to seek help if you need it. My first week at school consisted of panic attacks, lonliness and lots of crying and homesickness*. So it sounds like you're doing much better than I did!
*I had really, really social roommates Freshman year. They would have parties in our 'suite', come home drunk at all hours, blast horrible music (some of which I've since downloaded because it's so bad it's laughable) and drag me to uncomfortable parties. It really is about who you know, sometimes**.
**But who holds grudges? Certainly not me. Heh.
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Projecting my voice was hard. I have a quiet voice, unless I'm full of caffiene, so when I was actually cast in things, I always had soda backstage.
I'm glad to read that everything's okay so far, neopsytox! Just keep taking deep breaths and don't be afraid to seek help if you need it. My first week at school consisted of panic attacks, lonliness and lots of crying and homesickness*. So it sounds like you're doing much better than I did!
*I had really, really social roommates Freshman year. They would have parties in our 'suite', come home drunk at all hours, blast horrible music (some of which I've since downloaded because it's so bad it's laughable) and drag me to uncomfortable parties. It really is about who you know, sometimes**.
**But who holds grudges? Certainly not me. Heh.
Well, I have had the same roommate for 4 years, my companion of sorts, who is probably much of the reason I became like how I am now...he has social anxiety and doesn't like to go anywhere, and if he has to leave the apartment, its at night when no one is on the road. I've always preferred the night, but I did used to regularly go places during the day, at least without getting anxious...plus, I didn't actually have social anxiety until being around him. It's the mimicry thing, I guess.
Anyway, I'm much happier in this living situation than having to bunk at a dorm. I'm definitely not into parties or living with a bunch of strangers. Hopefully I'll never have to do the dorm-life thing. I visited a friend in Cali and stayed in his dorm for 2 weeks, and that was crazy...made me rethink the whole college thing, actually. I was a buzz-kill for him because he likes to be social and party and during those 2 weeks, he felt like he had to babysit me and put his life on hold. blah.
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I went to the counselor today to ask a simple question concerning whether I should obtain my AA and then transfer to a university OR transfer at around 60 credit hours, and take my chances that all of my courses will shift to the new school. What I wanted to know is if I were to get an AA, would that be transferable anywhere, even if the core curriculum differs at that school. She totally couldn't understand my question, even though I kept rewording it, and then I just gave up. Now, she may have been giving me the correct answer, but that would've been pure coincidence. Basically, I still don't know one way or the other.
I needed to know if getting an AA is a safeguard when transferring to a university so that they consider your core curriculum complete, because I know that without one, when you enroll at the new school, you may have to take additional classes to complete their core requirements, while the ones that completed the core at your previous school become elective credits, which can cause complications if there is a cap on how many credit hours you are allowed to have that do not correspond to your degree. I was hoping that an AA would trump and then all you have to worry about are the requirements towards your major. Does anyone know the answer to this? I know my written explanation sounds a bit confusing. I probably should've napped before writing this out to post.
WHEN TRANSFERRING, IF the AA is just as flimsy as if you didn't have one, then I don't see a point in obtaining it if my intentions are to transfer, because it would just be a waste of time.
Another question, if a university only accepts so many transferable hours, do you have the opportunity to sit down with them and decide which ones to transfer? do they actually pay mind and strategically transfer the ones that correspond to your degree path? I don't want to get lassoed with having performing arts credits transfer (because they were completed first), while perhaps degree-specific ones do not...then having to retake them at university-level.
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I just called my mother to ask her views, and she states that it makes sense...that an associate's degree only holds weight in the state where it was attained. Seems like a useless degree then. A bachelor's is accepted nationally when applying for graduate school, no matter the undergraduate core curriculum of that particular state.
There is still a question as to how credits transfer when you have completed more than the amount accepted at the institution -- if there is a specific selection process...
BTW, the counselor kept thinking I was asking her if a university HAS TO take me if I have an AA. Of course, I'm not an idiot and do understand that you have to apply to a school and get accepted based on things such as your GPA, testing, essay, interview, extracurricular activities, etc. It's like I couldn't bend her thoughts away from that once she leapt on it, no matter what I said. It frustrated me. O how many memories return of my loathing for this school and all the irritation it caused.
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Me, all I can say is that I have had my ups and downs while going to school right now. I am not going to give up finishing my transfer credits, and once I transfer to a 4 year institution, I will give it a shot with a Business/Economics major (the Business major will be specifically in either Accounting, Finance or Both) and I will not wimp out of that major due to the fact that I want a job that I can do for the Passion and Money, as well as financial freedom. If that doesn't work out, Computer Science can be a possibility. I might be bored off my mind going to a Community College right now, due to the lack of school clubs, incredibly boring atmosphere, no party atmosphere and so on, but i will still have to be patient nonetheless. I will make it from place A to place B eventually.
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I like the acedemic aspect of it and did well acedemically in my first year, but the social part is something I have issues with.
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My advice to you: hard as it may sound but you might want to consider a different career path/college study all together. Perhaps one that doesn't require hands-on or socially demanding activities. If you want to stay in your plane of interests you can always try being a researcher or your interests or study something that involves less personal interaction.
Here is something that one would need to keep in mind: NO MATTER WHAT FIELD YOU GO INTO, YOU WILL INTERACT WITH OTHERS.
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