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29 Dec 2010, 12:16 am

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Even having a degree at 23 sucks. Being 23 sucks. On one hand, being young is good for physical activities, on the other hand, we live in an ancient society where elders are worshipped as if they actually know something worth of value just because they are old. Being old doesn't make somebody knowledgeable. So nobody takes 23 year olds seriously, even if they know a great deal. And that sucks. College degree or no, what's the difference? Employers don't want a degree, they want someone who finished what they started, and a degree is simply the most common example. If you have a better example of that, use that. It will impress them. Employers want obedient workers with good social skills. Hmmmmm...


Age discrimination, the young and the old are the targets. Right now the target for the young seems like it set into 24(maybe 25) or under and especially those who are under 18. Not sure for the old range.

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No, a business degree provides you with a valuable skill set.


Trying to obtain a business degree wouldn't guarantee that you may have a valuable skill set. Many ways to obtain knowledge other than trying to achieve a business degree will also provide you with certain skills that you may need for the job if you're capable of understanding and learning it. A degree can only help to a extent, but the degree didn't scream "Use me and you're in for the job". It certainly doesn't even come close to a guarantee. Also, there are plenty of people who got degree, but they do not know much about the field of the degree they were studying for. It's the education (knowledge-wise and not schooling-wise) that helps you get the foot into the door.



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09 Jan 2011, 9:13 am

Bah! I graduated HS at 17, and I'm now 23, and I still have yet to get my degree! One more semester!



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14 Jan 2011, 10:22 pm

Some people don't graduate college until they're 30. There was a woman who didn't graduate college until she was 85!



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15 Jan 2011, 6:30 pm

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samsa wrote:
Mindslave wrote:
Even having a degree at 23 sucks. Being 23 sucks. On one hand, being young is good for physical activities, on the other hand, we live in an ancient society where elders are worshipped as if they actually know something worth of value just because they are old. Being old doesn't make somebody knowledgeable. So nobody takes 23 year olds seriously, even if they know a great deal. And that sucks. College degree or no, what's the difference? Employers don't want a degree, they want someone who finished what they started, and a degree is simply the most common example. If you have a better example of that, use that. It will impress them. Employers want obedient workers with good social skills. Hmmmmm...

I would QFT this a million times if I could.

With the exception of few professions (those in science, medicine and engineering, definitely,) then a degree is of limited use.



No, a business degree provides you with a valuable skill set.


The only field where it is a necessity is accounting.


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15 Jan 2011, 8:42 pm

I have two college degrees (one was a double-major) and they're both useless!



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16 Jan 2011, 12:31 am

Mindslave wrote:
Even having a degree at 23 sucks. Being 23 sucks. On one hand, being young is good for physical activities, on the other hand, we live in an ancient society where elders are worshipped as if they actually know something worth of value just because they are old. Being old doesn't make somebody knowledgeable. So nobody takes 23 year olds seriously, even if they know a great deal. And that sucks. College degree or no, what's the difference? Employers don't want a degree, they want someone who finished what they started, and a degree is simply the most common example. If you have a better example of that, use that. It will impress them. Employers want obedient workers with good social skills. Hmmmmm...


News flash....I thought the same thing when I was 23. Now that I'm over 40, I realize I was pretty arrogant and don't have all the answers I thought I did at that age. :lol:



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16 Jan 2011, 7:28 am

Being 23 goes by after about a year, and then so does 24, and I'm betting 25 will do just the same. Having a college degree is often more dependent upon your ability to get financial aid than it is to get a college level education. Until I was 23, specifically that I'd turn 24 during the quarter I started, the FAFSA required my stepdad's income to be input which basically killed all possibility of financial aid. Up to that time I continued teaching myself subjects such as physics and Latin. After a year and a half of college experience I think I rather would respect myself less for having continued to obtain a degree rather than teach myself subjects on my own where the focus is actually upon learning the material instead of merely churning one brainless assignment after another in order to get grades.



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22 Jan 2011, 8:32 pm

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Is it the degree or the knowledge that makes it useful though?

I'm a certified machinist and my certification says that I am proficient in the use of a mill, lathe or precision grinder. In truth I can only use the mill or lathe sufficiently to consider myself qualified to use one. It's the knowledge not the paper that makes you what you are once you get your foot in the door.


It's neither. It's really all about confidence and people skills.



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14 Feb 2011, 8:00 am

I know many people without behavior disorders or learning disorders who take a little time to get out of a community college and some get into some really elite schools in my area. I am hoping to pull up my grades as the semesters pass by and I hope with reasonable grades+good essay, I hope to transfer to a good college, even though I may take a little time. People who start out at community college tend to bomb their placement exams and have to work their ways up through the level of classes and takes them 4,5,6 or sometimes 7 years. I am taking a little time at my local community college (due to the fact that I was slacking off 1/2 the time at my local CC) and am looking forward to going to a 4-year school and having fun there. There are plenty of people who wait till even their 40 to go back and get degrees, it is never too late to get your education, don't be hard on yourself!



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15 Feb 2011, 9:12 am

Actually, so does having a degree and being unemployable.

Main thing is - keep plowing and go around the obstacles or walk over them. It is a big world and one thing you learn is that there are always more than just two possible outcomes.