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Hell I say lets do it.

I can't be bothered to learn about websites and internet moneymaking - obviously it's this guy's special interest. So what if he makes money off it - I can piss around over the next month and scribble a chapter a night on chinchillas. My special interest gets a few more fans around the world (even if it's cheese doodle 13 year old Jonas Brothers fans) and I get to yabber on about my favourite topic (on which I already know everything I'd need).

Even if Chuckles doesn't ever pay me - it's not like a there's a deadline or a refusal letter coming along is there? I get published. Whee!

What IS missing in all these assurances and promises and posturing is the details on the payment scheme...

1) How much does one topic pay - and how often - how is the outcome determined
2) How you gonna pay me?
Lunar tokens? 100 dollar bills? Australian Francs? Cheque in the Mail? Money Order?

Let's get down to the facts - because ntohing is more suspicious than a proposal without all the facts. Especially for the vast majority of us here, I would think. So... Fact me!

None, I like to make money by actually creating value instead of being a parasite who takes money off the work that other's do. OK, I'll admit it, making a site popular and turn up favorably in search engines is a skill. If you have very good content, it won't be hard to get visitors and the SEO part is relatively easy. If the content is bad, you need to know a lot about SEO and you still can get many people to visit. That's where it's starting to bug me, personally, because you're basically tricking people who are looking for valuable information into visiting a site which looks like it is valuable but actually isn't.

But never mind that, it's just a personal dislike that some people are able to set aside.
Can you explain exactly how these sites will make money? To my knowledge, there are basically three options:
- get paid for displaying ads
- get paid for referals (affiliate programs)
- sell content

I'm not saying you can't create sites that will make the kind of money you said.
In a good niche it's absolutely possible and many people are doing it, like you do, apparently. There are also many failed attempts at doing so out there, some maybe due to lack of skill of the creator, but many of them aren't.
I just find it curious that you think you can do this for arbitrary content. I don't believe there are many unfilled niches left, so if you accept content in random topics, it's unlikely to be in a good niche. In my estimation, your numbers aren't very realistic for the average niche site.

Taking all this into consideration, I feel you're using false hope to get people to provide free work. I'm still sure that creating the content will be much more work than doing the marketing stuff, especially since people with AS will usually want to write good content and won't be happy with shoddy work. So they'll probably invest a lot of time.
I'm not saying you have bad intentions, I can't tell really. Anyone is free to give this a try, and I'd love to hear a report about it later, maybe even a blog post on WP? I just wouldn't want anyone to get all enthusiastic about it, spend weeks and months of full time work on creating content and then be disappointed. Flaming you after having invested all that time doesn't really compensate for that. As long as whoever is creating the content has realistic expectations, why not give it a try.

So, I actually have an idea, something I'd like to write about.
I'll create the page and I'll take care of domain and hosting myself. All you have to do is adsense-fu and all that SEO magic. You get access to the page code so that you can make necessary changes.
You get 50% of the net income from the page (it has to go through me first and I'll paypal you your share).

Deal?

Lol, I had actually wrote out a HUGE post explaining every single detail of what I was doing, etc. I asked a friend to read it over expecting him to tell me how well thought out it was, but instead he told me "dude, this is a freakin novel. Just keep it short and sweet and answer questions as they come". Any way, I kind of had to agree with him. If I answered everything in the first post it'd be terribly long and lose a lot of people's interest.

To answer your question, it's actually you who will pay me. Google has an advertising program that's free to sign up to. You create an account, we put up the ads, you enter in your payment information (usually direct deposit, but can also be a check) and from there Google pays you on a monthly basis assuming the site makes at least X amount of money. The reason for this is Google's advertising platform called Google Adsense, will share the information they have with the Google algorithm. So if they know for example, through my Google Adsense account, that I am publishing ads on 10 different websites through the same account, they can penalize my websites. For this reason, it's a lot better if you can sign up for the account yourself, and pay me - rather than vice versa.

To pay me you can send me a personal check, western union, Paypal, what ever is easiest for you. I'm not concerned about it, when you're making money there's always a solution to make things work.

I disagree with your general outlook on content. If you write "good" content, people will link to it and you can get some traffic. For example, if you have a blog about living with Aspergers and you're constantly posting new breakthroughs that you've uncovered. Or you're posting other really insightful information that's not any where else on the net, it's going to naturally collect links and attention and traffic. However say you're just a 18 year old kid who graduated high school, struggling with Aspergers and decide to make a site about being 18 years old, unemployed and having Aspergers. If I take that content and make it relevant to a wide variety of search terms related to being 18 years old, related to recently graduating high school and related to having Aspergers. I don't see how I am doing anything wrong. On the other hand if you optimize a porn site to rank #1 for Harry Potter, I agree, pretty scummy - but it's making content relevant to the search query.

The most important thing to understand is that I am asking people to write about what they want. I am not asking people to write 20k on something they have no clue about. There's a huge difference between me writing 20k words on a topic that I am deeply knowledgeable about and getting it ranked in the search engines compared to me writing 20k content about something I don't even care about simply because it's a high CPC niche. Even if what you write about is a .05 average CPC I am still willing to do it. What I'm not willing to do is get someone to write 20k words about structured debt settlements just because we could make more money in that niche. You have to be passionate about it. If you're passionate, you nor I am to judge on what's good content.



I think the best way to start a website with ads is Google Adsense. Once the website is generating a lot of traffic, you can look at pushing relevant products via affiliate programs or CPA offers. I like to focus on getting the website traffic totally and exclusively. Once you have traffic and an income, you can work on optimizing that through different options to maximize income/revenue.



I disagree. I am not talking about taking over random unfilled niches that get lots of searches. 99% of sites that rank aren't optimized properly. With my skill & technique for optimizing websites I am capable and willing to rank for any niche, be it ultra competitive or wide open.



The last thing I want to do is give any one false hope. Perhaps you're right though, in re-reading my posts maybe I didn't fully disclose the possibility that it could not work out for some people. Perhaps it takes longer than 6-8 months, perhaps I use more aggressive techniques and the website suffers a penalty from Google, or perhaps someone just picks a niche that is not profitable and no matter how much traffic we get, we can't make a dime. I think the reason I didn't fully disclose this is a) Yes, I am trying to convince you it's worth your time to write the content. I'll be honest in answering questions, but the main pitch is geared towards getting you to do it. It's not me being deceptive, at least not intentionally. b) I've honestly never encountered a niche where I couldn't make AT LEAST $1000/month with 20k worth of content. I've encountered many niches where you can make a lot more, but after 2-3 years, $1000 is the minimum. $500 is the minimum within 6-8 months. See the thing is if I said write one article of 1000 words on any topic, you might make a couple bucks a day, or maybe if it's a high CPC niche you can strike gold and make a killing off of little content. But when it's 20k words that's a lot of meat. Each article is broken down into 1000 words, and you've got at least 20 of them. From there each article can target 3 different keywords, so let's say we target 60 major keywords that get at least 5k global exact matches. Then from there because the articles aren't 250 words, they're 1000 words, they can get a lot of long tail searches. Google has said (albeit before suggestive search) that 2/3rds of their searches are unique terms. For example, 2/3rds of people search for stuff like "18 year old with aspergers recently graduated high school and no job" rather than "aspergers unemployed". Take a moment and do some really long tail searches and see what kinds of sites come up, they're pages with a ton of content 1000+, they're not thin made for adsense websites with pictures and embedded youtube videos.

Sorry for the wordy response, hopefully it's not too hard to read.

Deal. I'm not willing to do this for every one. As you can imagine if I'm doing this with 100 people and I have to trust them all individually to pay me my cut, say 20% of them don't... well that's 20% of my work that I'm not being paid for. When I was trying to think of a win-win I made it so that I own the domain as security on my part. However I can tell you're not trying to rip me off, you're just being skeptical and so if you're willing to do it - I'll prove to you guys that I'm legit by making your site on your domain/hosting but all future sites I work on will have to be the way I intended things to be in the original post. The one thing though, is I am not asking anyone to sign the content over to me. We're partners, I'd own the domain but you own the content.

I also wanted to mention about your above post that I don't want any one to go out and buy a new car, or quit their job, or go into debt in any which way. I figured it was obvious but just to play it safe - don't count on the money till it's coming in. Never spend money you don't have. Something could go wrong, I could die or get very sick and not be able to fullfil my end of the bargain, the internet could stop working tomorrow, etc. So please don't look at this as a savior to all of your problems. My intention was really to just find people who have extra time and enjoy writing about a special interest of theirs. Not to take time away from what you're already doing or to mask this as a solution to all of your problems.

I hope that makes sense.


edit: I just realized you said you want to make the website as well. I want to mention that it can be on your host/server but I'd need to make the site itself. The internal structure of the site is a very important part. I'm not concerned with design though, so you can pick whatever design you want. But I'd need to be able to sort the site out myself.

I might be interested...but I already have blogs and research projects , so I'm not sure this would be the right avenue for me.