I've lost my position at work because I'm autistic

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21 Nov 2014, 12:39 am

http://www.antiochne.edu/wp-content/upl ... pGuide.pdf

Raleigh, the above link is "An Employers Guide to Aspergers". I don't know whether it will be helpful to you or not, though there may be something of use to your current situation (or not).

I'll also post in the Work Forum.

How are you getting on?



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21 Nov 2014, 3:40 am

Raleigh wrote:
Update: I have decided to fight this thing with everything I have because it's discrimination, it's not right and I deserve better.
I've been knocked down but I'm not going to bow out quietly. It's just taken me a while to process all this. My brain's a bit Vista :D


There's nothing in your end of year review that conflicts with your ability to perform your job. On that basis I think you have a very good case to press for a continuation of your present job circumstances. Wouldn't hurt though to have a few allies in your corner fighting on your side.



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21 Nov 2014, 6:05 am

You could try to "deal with" it the way I have via diet, herbal detox to the nth degree, and probiotics.

Doing this has changed my entire life & ability to work for the better.

If you're interested, feel free to pm me and we can chat.


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21 Nov 2014, 7:34 am

Raleigh wrote:
Update: I have decided to fight this thing with everything I have because it's discrimination, it's not right and I deserve better.
I've been knocked down but I'm not going to bow out quietly. It's just taken me a while to process all this. My brain's a bit Vista :D


Fair play to you, I disagreed with a review from my first employer, I argued my case as best I could and was put on gardening leave. That sucked, but I never regretted standing up for myself. You seem quite clever, and level headed, I think those qualities will assist you in this situation.



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21 Nov 2014, 1:18 pm

*shrug* As someone with a business education, I tend to disagree with that. Either you can do the job just fine in all it's aspects, or you can't. I accept this same fate for myself.

I was told at work that I was making some mistakes and they were listed for me.. all of them were asd symptom related. It was pointed out that I didn't used to do these things. I realized what was exacerbating my symptoms (took a strong course of antibiotics the wrecked my intestinal flora balance and wreaked havoc on my enteric nervous system & likely neurotransmitter levels) and then decided to take action and do what I do to rebalance myself and my health to get my brain firing on all cylinders again. I don't believe I should be given special concessions in my role at work. I do believe people can either perform their role or they should be in a different one - myself included. So, I haven't disclosed my diagnosis nor symptoms to that boss. I just take their feedback like the mirror it is reflecting back at me w/ all the symptoms I'm oblivious to myself and then deal with it as best I can in order to improve and hopefully impress.

But depending on the role, I suppose some concessions for asd may be ok. It's really a case by case basis.


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21 Nov 2014, 1:23 pm

Raleigh, that is terrible. I am so sorry to read this.


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21 Nov 2014, 3:13 pm

I am not a lawyer, doctor, or your manager.

I do take a systemic, organized approach to many things.

I think that most people would like to make work their second home. They see their coworkers as their second family, and memos will refer to the company that way, ie -- the Acme Co "family." :roll:

But, there is a saying that (amongst strangers) "familiarity breeds contempt."

They ideally would have described an impersonal event which happened at work, and suggested how do deal with that, in a professional capacity.

Instead, I'm reading "You're demoted, take a pill."

Have you ever expressed to them, that you were disabled? Legally speaking, they might have made what is called a 'reasonable accommodation.' Otherwise, they're not particularly entitled to say whether you have mental issues.

I am not an expert in legal matters, and you may want to discuss them with a lawyer, for a more serious answer.



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21 Nov 2014, 7:27 pm

Ok, I'm not ok. I've taken a week's leave. Not in a good headspace right now. I've had a spell in casualty, been referred to the MHU and overloaded with appointments. Diagnosis was mentioned and I now have a tentative appointment with a psychiatrist for evaluation. They gave me Valium at the MHU. Maybe drugs *are* the answer.
I emailed the principal because I thought, "What the heck, I may as well start at the top." I simply stated the facts and outlined the conversation using quotations. She wants to meet with me when I return to work next week. I don't know what I'm going to say. I don't think I really care about losing my position now. I just want her to know it's not ok to treat people the way I was treated. I'm not ok with that. I don't want anyone else to be treated that way either. I don't want to have to act normal because this is my normal. My normal is just as normal as anyone else's. Why is it so wrong to be me? I'm possibly not making sense here but a lot of things don't make sense atm. My head is f****d up.


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23 Nov 2014, 3:03 am

Raleigh wrote:
Ok, I'm not ok. I've taken a week's leave. Not in a good headspace right now. I've had a spell in casualty, been referred to the MHU and overloaded with appointments. Diagnosis was mentioned and I now have a tentative appointment with a psychiatrist for evaluation. They gave me Valium at the MHU. Maybe drugs *are* the answer.
I emailed the principal because I thought, "What the heck, I may as well start at the top." I simply stated the facts and outlined the conversation using quotations. She wants to meet with me when I return to work next week. I don't know what I'm going to say. I don't think I really care about losing my position now. I just want her to know it's not ok to treat people the way I was treated. I'm not ok with that. I don't want anyone else to be treated that way either. I don't want to have to act normal because this is my normal. My normal is just as normal as anyone else's. Why is it so wrong to be me? I'm possibly not making sense here but a lot of things don't make sense atm. My head is f****d up.


Good on you for doing what I have "bold typed" - I think that was a good choice as a way of setting up the dialogue to come. And maybe the valium - for now - is also good. It will calm your understandable anxiety and help you focus. As to what you are going to say - that will follow on from a clear decision first of what outcome you want to achieve. At the moment I think you are still really hurting and angry which is completely understandable. I would be too. In a few days you will feel much clearer and stronger. You have made some good choices - that's a powerful start. Good for you.



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10 Dec 2014, 5:12 am

Update for anyone who's interested:

Almost a month and half a dozen awkward and nerve-wracking meetings later, I've been told my contract will be renewed next year. This means I'll be staying in my current job at the same pay rate.
Just want to thank everyone here for the advice and encouragement I received while I was going through this awful situation. Don't think I could have done it without you. :heart:
Special thanks to B19 for reminding me that I have power.


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10 Dec 2014, 8:56 am

If this problem ever happens again, happily leave them without showing any harsh feelings. And I do believe that if you apply as an interpreter elsewhere, and explain the nature why you were removed at this last place, I would say you have a 75% chance that they will happily employ you.

And the reason why: there is NOTHING that employers love more than persistence, especially in the face of great adversity.



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10 Dec 2014, 9:19 am

Congratulations, Raleigh!

That's really excellent news.

Goes to show: autism is not necessarily a tragedy.



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10 Dec 2014, 2:50 pm

That's wonderful news :heart:

Good for you, I am very happy for you.



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10 Dec 2014, 2:57 pm

Really good to hear this, Raleigh!

And very impressive that you got through all those nerve-wracking meetings.



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10 Dec 2014, 4:32 pm

Brilliant news Raleigh, :D



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10 Dec 2014, 4:39 pm

That's really great news Raleigh. Would have been a worrying time for you over Christmas, not knowing how it would all end up next year. Now you can relax. I assume you will be working with the same people next year. They will be appreciative to have you back.