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22 Jul 2012, 12:33 pm

So I've enlightened myself, the worst that can happen is I won't find something or I will and it won't work out and I'll just have to do something different. I know my psychological symptoms are lesser when I am doing something I like so it makes sense to quit worrying about all the jobs I cant do and consider the ones I maybe could.

So head shops and stores that sell CDs, Vinyls and other things(not sure the specific name of those kinds of stores) are probably a good start. But yeah maybe I should try looking into things that are related to things I'm interested in.

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30 Jul 2012, 9:50 pm

on second thoughts who in their right mind would hire me?

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30 Jul 2012, 10:34 pm

Employers aren't always rational. It can't hurt to apply.

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30 Jul 2012, 11:22 pm

Won't hurt at all. You never know.

The only for sure way not to get hired, is to not apply.

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31 Jul 2012, 12:19 am

Maybe it wont hurt physically.......but I'll only fail and let down the employer most likely. I mean I feel like realistically even if I do go to all the trouble to type up a resume and get serious about applying the potential employers would see my lack of self confidence and nervousness that I will fail and be laughed at, shunned or hated by the other employees if I screw up from a mile away and be turned off from considering hiring me.

So basically I am afraid to even go in and ask about jobs or ask if they accept resumes...when the first impression I give is 'nervous person who has no clue what they are doing.' I don't feel like I have a very good chance of getting hired even in the most laid back of places.

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31 Jul 2012, 1:07 am

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You fail?

You get fired?

So what. Try again. There are millions of companies, and millions of jobs. If one company rejects you, find another.

Stop thinking "no one will hire me." If you don't apply to the job, of course they won't hire you... you didn't apply.

You've feared getting fired and applying for a year. Where has that gotten you? Did it bring in money? If you had applied and gotten a job, then gotten fired, at least you would have gotten paid for the hours you worked. And, you would at least have that to list on your resume. That's better than not working at all and having zero dollars in income.

Find jobs that you can do and do the job well, get paid, be fine.

Go in and ask about jobs? Um. Apply online. Easier, quicker, and then you don't have to worry about walking in to a hundred stores handing out resumes.

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31 Jul 2012, 1:29 am

ooo wrote:

Sweetleaf wrote:

You fail?

You get fired?

So what. Try again. There are millions of companies, and millions of jobs. If one company rejects you, find another.

Read the OP, I think somewhere in there it talks about my intentions of trying again to find work.

Stop thinking "no one will hire me." If you don't apply to the job, of course they won't hire you... you didn't apply.

I would love to stop thinking that, but it's a little easier said than done.....especially considering what happened the last time I applied for a job and even got an interview. I show up for the interview at 8 in the morning and low and behold no one has any idea what I'm even talking about and all that did was humilate and embarrass me, so yeah I am quite afraid of running into situations like that more. Point is I have applied for jobs, I have had jobs, I've been fired and I've been turned down when I have applied. And I am going to type a resume and go out applying yet again.

You've feared getting fired and applying for a year. Where has that gotten you? Did it bring in money? If you had applied and gotten a job, then gotten fired, at least you would have gotten paid for the hours you worked. And, you would at least have that to list on your resume. That's better than not working at all and having zero dollars in income.

6 months, I was in college before that stupidly thinking I could make that work.........and yeah being afraid of applying and being fired has brought in loads of money I mean come on do you think I don't know that.

Find jobs that you can do and do the job well, get paid, be fine.

Again see the OP, I belive I said I was going to attempt jobs I have intrest in and such that I might be able to do.......but then it would be up to the employer to either keep me employed and pay me or fire me and not keep paying me. As for 'be fine' If I am not 'fine' how am I supposed to be fine?

Go in and ask about jobs? Um. Apply online. Easier, quicker, and then you don't have to worry about walking in to a hundred stores handing out resumes.

I have applied for jobs online......and not a single call back, I got one email back from goodwill for management positions, I don't think I am qualified to be a manager. Anyways I hope this is fun for you, I on the other hand am about to have a panic attack because this is way too much and I am already quite aware I fail at living up to any standards that anyone might think I should live up to.

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31 Jul 2012, 1:38 am

Failing to live up to standards? Huh?

Your standard of living now is no income. Once you find a job, any job, you'll have that self-pride and some money. If you fail, you'll be no worse off than you are already. If you succeed, your situation will improve.

Most employers don't respond saying they got your application.

Since you're applying to jobs now, you'll eventually get another interview, and you'll eventually get another job. Breathe. Psyching yourself up and predicting failure isn't going to help. If you don't get a job or you get fired, you'll be in the same place you're in right now.. not worse. So, that's not exactly something to fear-- failure will simply lead you back to where you are right now. Potential success (getting hired) will mean you upgrade your standard of living from where it is right now.

Goodwill e-mailed you back.. that's good. Even if you're not a manager there, they could still hire you. Then, you work there a while, get experience, and have something to put on your resume. Later, you apply for an upgraded job. And, repeat. Sooner or later, you'll land a job that pays better after some more experience.

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31 Jul 2012, 1:56 am

Sweetleaf wrote:

on second thoughts who in their right mind would hire me?

Because headshop owners are paragons of right-mindedness ... (/sarcasm)

There's all kinds of crazy people out there, some of them even work together and will only hire other crazy people. Think of this: perhaps if things had turned out just a little different, you would've made it through college and got some degree in a high-paying sort of job, worked til you burned out, and then used the money to do something you'd enjoy more, like open a headshop. Or maybe in some other life you've won the lottery or got an inheiritance or whatever, and done the same.

Who would you hire, Sweetleaf? Squeaky clean, superfunctional extrovert types? You'd have to spend all day with them, remember ...

EDIT oh and ... never mind ooo. That type of thinking is just completely useless unless you've got a valuable skill to market. People who do, have absolutely no comprehension of anything outside of that, they just short-circuit and go into some sort of irrational mode like a broken robot.

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31 Jul 2012, 1:58 am

How to Find a Job
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/ ... /index.htm

How to Lose Your Fear of Being Fired
http://www.wikihow.com/Lose-Your-Fear-of-Being-Fired

Not getting hired? 10 reasons why
http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/worklife ... index.html

Living in Fear versus Living in Certainty
Living Fearlessly: What's the Worst Thing That Could Happen?
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/enl ... -certainty

7 Ways to Overcome the Fear of Failure
http://www.pickthebrain.com/blog/overco ... f-failure/

20 Signs That a Pink Slip is Coming -- And How to Prevent It
http://www.wisebread.com/you-re-fired-2 ... -is-coming

Quote:

In the first few weeks after losing their jobs, about 3 in 10 people are able to find work. Even at this weak re-employment rate, about half of the long-term unemployed will find a job within six months, and three-quarters within a year.

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31 Jul 2012, 2:00 am

ooo wrote:

I'm saying... being afraid of potentially failing lead you to where you are now. If you fail again, you'll simply end up where you are again. And, you're managing now.Success = upgrading your life. Failure = staying where you already are... nothing changes. Not that bad, eh?

No it will be worse if I fail...

Sometimes companies goof in the process. Having one company schedule an interview and then forget isn't a personal insult to you. It's a generic life mix up. How is that so embarrassing? Frustrating, sure. But, it's not embarrassing... you got the call, showed up,... and they goofed. That's on them, not you. Try again with companies that actually remember they have interviews scheduled. If somehow a company forgets, explain to them you have an interview with < Person's Name >. If the person forgot, ask them to reschedule. It's life, not shame.

Because the main employee I ended up talking to made a point to be rude to me, it was pretty intimidating and made me anxious so then I was stammering like an idiot trying to get my words out which caused even more dirty looks from her like she was disgusted such a clueless, idiodic nutcase would even come in for an interview. So yeah I was told to come back at 12 but I felt too humiliated and intimidated to make myself go back. And I being the forgetful person I am didn't have the exact name of the person who was interviewing which just added to me feeling like an idiot. To say the least it was actually pretty traumatizing it was like all the things I worried about happening happened and I could hardly cope with it.

If you've gotten fired before, you survived it.. and can again. If a person can learn from their mistakes on why they got fired, they can avoid getting fired in the future (company layoffs excluded). Seriously, you're surviving at your current standard of living, and if you fail, you'll end up where you are now. Not so scary when you think of it as you'll end up where you already are again even if you fail, right?

No I'm likely to end up homeless unless I figure something out pretty soon here.......my mom is letting me stay at her house but there is no telling how long that is good for. Things in the family have been weird to say the least and tensions seem to be building, trying not to worry too much about that since I am already worried enough about everything else.

You'll find a job you can do soon enough, then you can move elsewhere and do the other things you've been wanting to do.

And, that's a good thing.

If I find a job I can do, and if it pays enough for me to move.......then yeah...

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31 Jul 2012, 2:05 am

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If I find a job I can do, and if it pays enough for me to move.......then yeah...

Minimum wage is 7.25. That's $1160 a month. That's enough for a shared apartment (with roommates in some cities), food, and basic living.

If the minimum wage means you can sustain life, it's not like you'll be homeless if you actively try to find a job now and are willing to do any sort of job, whether it's cleaning toilets or mowing lawns. Though I remember the thread where you wanted to try homelessness. You obviously won't have to resort to that if you try anything. Find jobs you can do, apply, keep applying, get job, get own apartment, not be homeless.

It's not like most hiring managers forget interviews very often, so it's unlikely you'll have that happen again. You really shouldn't be that traumatized by an interview. Seriously, it's not the worst thing that could happen to a person. Even if you stumbled words, I doubt the person remembered that it even happened a few hours later. It's just an interview where some hiring manager scheduled wrong. Next time, go to the interview that they reschedule. Make sure to write down the hiring managers name before you go.

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31 Jul 2012, 2:08 am

Sweetleaf wrote:

If I find a job I can do, and if it pays enough for me to move.......then yeah...

If all you want is something temporary to make a few bucks, cleaner is generally a good bet. They're always hiring and the interview is about the most interaction you'll ever have to do, and they kind of expect you to be a bit odd or have problems. It's generally not too bad of a job, unless you're somewhere where there's kids or teenagers or lots of college age people. But you can be around people and they'll treat you like a subhuman (not necessarily with rudeness though). You can always quit, though.

I find full-time very difficult, but I've never had trouble picking up some crap part-time job. They really don't give a damn that much, as long as you don't show up to interviews wasted or anything like that. They're just hiring bodies, basically.

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31 Jul 2012, 2:10 am

edgewaters wrote:

Sweetleaf wrote:

If I find a job I can do, and if it pays enough for me to move.......then yeah...

I am sure being treated subhuman would do wonders for my self esteem and mental health.

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31 Jul 2012, 2:11 am

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No it will be worse if I fail...

No, it won't. You'll be without a job (you already are). You'll be without income (you already are). You'll have made a few bucks (an improvement) and practice at interviewing/working (an improvement from now), and you can try again at another job.

It won't be worse.

Not doing anything will make it worse. If you try once, fail, and give up, that's worse.

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