The hidden aspie economy
When I realized I have aspergers, I told two of the three people I consider friends at work. The first person I told finished my sentence while I was explaining, and said that he had assumed that I had AS because he had been studying it for years having self-diagnosed long ago. The second person also said she thought she had some form of autism and was considering getting a diagnosis. I was amazed.
We are all technically oriented graphic designers and combine a natural ease with digital technology and a strong visual mind.
A third odd moment came when I had just been diagnosed and I was thinking back through my work life and how autistic traits had been a factor. I recalled an odd conversation years ago when my boss told me she had Aspergers and about the symptoms of Aspergers. I asked if there was anything she wanted me to do and she said no, she just wanted me to know.
I wondered if she had been trying to tell me the she suspected I was also Aspergian. I called to find out and she said yes.
The four of us represent about 30% of our group. Two of us are professionally diagnosed, two of us self-diagnosed.
I wonder how many others in our profession have ASD.
I now realize I am incredibly lucky to have worked for someone who knew about my ASD for years before I did and looked out for my interests.
I understand there is similar anecdotal evidence that something like the situation I was in also happens in academia and the high technology sector.
So I wonder if there are a lot of spectrumites out there, more or less successfully getting by in the NT world in certain professions. I wonder how discovery of those people and their inclusion in statistics about how successful people with ASD can be would change the understanding of outcomes for people with these traits?
I have read the very high unemployment and divorce statistics and felt anxiety for myself and my children... Then realized I have already mostly beaten the odds (so far!). But I wonder if the odds are right? Perhaps they are skewed by people who are coping well enough to get by without being recorded in the statistics? I can't think of any way to test this idea so it may be idle speculation, but I wonder what others thought about this possibility.
There's a thread about Temple Grandin's article (book excerpt) that deals with this exact thing here:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt231331.html
In other words, you don’t have to have an autism spectrum disorder diagnosis to be “on the spectrum.”
This notion was popularized by the psychologist Simon Baron-Cohen. In 2001 he and his colleagues at the Autism Research Centre in Cambridge, England, introduced the autism-spectrum quotient questionnaire. People often take the AQ test online just to see whether they fall on the autistic spectrum. They might be wondering if they have Asperger’s or high-functioning autism. Or they might want to see what traits they have that, if amplified, would qualify them for one of those labels.
If nothing else, the AQ test got a lot of people thinking about behavior in a new way — the behavior of autistics, certainly, but the behavior of nonautistics, too. Their own behavior. The behavior of a neighbor, or a coworker, or oddball Uncle Ned with his disturbingly thorough stamp collection. Behavior that previously had seemed peculiar or perhaps aggressively strange now made a kind of sense."
I agree, and it might give hope to others that we are found in those places already.
Indeed not. However, the phrase ":anecdotal evidence" is in common use in the English language to indicate information that is statistically, legally or logically invalid as evidence but is somehow suggestive and may or may not be related to real phenomena.
There is, for example, plenty of anecdotal evidence about the stall characteristics of aircraft. The fact that pilots tell stories about their experiences of stalls does not invalidate the concept of stalls or the vast quantities of wind tunnel and flight test data about stalls.
By using this phrase and the sentence, " I can't think of any way to test this idea so it may be idle speculation, but I wonder what others thought about this possibility," I was hoping to communicate the idea that I am fully aware that the anecdotes I provide are evidence of nothing, but inviting comment on the question. Anomiel's comment was precisely the sort of information I was hoping to elicit.
I don't for a moment claim that the facts I relate from my experience are indicative of any larger pattern. I do wonder if they are, and if so what the pattern looks like. I further wonder what the implications of a larger spectrum would be and what the existence of a larger number of diagnosed people whose coping mechanisms enable them to struggle through a working life and family life would be.
I am going to read that other thread (Thanks, Anomiel!) and look up Temple Grandin's book.
This is true.
I see two issues here.
One, to this day, there is not a repeatable independent test for AS/ASD. It all requires subjective determinations by at least one accredited individual (in theory at least). It is entirely possible that the studies that were done on unemployement rates had some sort of sampling bias.
Two, there's major disagreement on what constitutes AS/ASD (particularly since yesterday's APA meeting). Where do people draw the line? Is it DSM-IV? DSM-IV-TR? DSM-5? ICD-9? ICD-10? See some of Aghogday's writings on the "Broader Autism Phernotype" (BAP) for a much larger view of what is and is not "on the spectrum".
Because of these issues (and related ones), it is entirely possible for the OP's point to be valid.
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Where I work there are 8 employees. Two of us have AS (myself and my boss who owns the store) and one is a mother whose son has AS, and while she is NT she has some tendencies (plus she understands what it means that I have AS). It helps more than I can say to work in an environment with people who understand. I actually got refereed to my work place by my psych because my boss sees the same boss and my psych realized that I could do some of the things that my boss had trouble doing (I am good at math and better at computers) so he told her about me. It has worked out well.
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I'm not sure my prior post was clear on this issue. I agree with you that this is an issue that should be looked at in more detail.
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Our first challenge is to create an entire economic infrastructure, from top to bottom, out of whole cloth.
-CEO Nwabudike Morgan, "The Centauri Monopoly"
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri (Firaxis Games)
