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victorytea
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16 May 2012, 8:04 pm

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I guess that settles that-t but I appreciate your input! Paul



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16 May 2012, 10:31 pm

I don't think it does settle it - my biggest fear is that my diagnosed autistic son is a prodromal (very early phase) schizophrenic like his mother - he has a 1 in 10 chance that is the case.



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16 May 2012, 11:14 pm

hoegaandit wrote:
I don't think it does settle it - my biggest fear is that my diagnosed autistic son is a prodromal (very early phase) schizophrenic like his mother - he has a 1 in 10 chance that is the case.


I understand your fear, especially going through it with your wife.



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17 May 2012, 7:14 am

Yes, good luck to you sir, I was talking about the relationship between the 2 conditions and not your personal dilemma. Paul. BTW, hoegaandit, is your son showing any signs of schizophrenia other than what you have described?



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17 May 2012, 7:53 pm

Fortunately my son does not seem to be showing any real signs of schizophrenia yet - on the other hand he is very uncommunicative with almost everybody (maybe not his school counsellor?) and does show some signs - eg he has an inner world and can often smile or laugh at inappropriate times (eg when being told off) which is symptomatic of schizophrenia, and eg can talk to himself quite a bit. Also he is now seventeen so moving into the vulnerable early adulthood phase when most males develop schizophrenia.

I still don't think he will get schizophrenia though - but it is my tendency to be a little overoptimistic.



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18 May 2012, 7:37 am

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buzzing sounds in his head or being able to hear the blood pumping in his body. He has also mentioned visual oddities, like how sometimes things get 'swirly' in front of him . . . (usually when over-stimulated).


Um, so I guess everyone doesn't have this? (I do.)

I don't know if it's pertinent in this situation, but something to remember with kids on the spectrum is that they have difficulty communicating. He may be trying to explain something that you would see as normal, but it's coming out in a way that makes it sound odd. For instance, I could see where kids with photographic memories might have difficulty telling the difference between something that's actually there and a very vivid memory. (Just an opinion, I'm not a doctor.)

Also, I remember DS going through a phase in 1st grade where things suddenly appeared to be huge and frightening when he was nervous (His teacher's feet and hands, for instance.) I think this was due to a combination of nerves, hyperfocus on details, and perseveration. At any rate, this symptom disappeared quite suddenly, so we weren't able to explore it further - but I read somewhere that it is something that can be linked to migraines, which DS does get.


Yes, I suppose my point was that we haven't worried about it too much, because we have seen it all as mostly coming from his heightened senses (be it ASD or sensory processing issues). Of course to an extent we all experience such things . . . and I like your point about their ways of expressing maybe being different--or not typical for his age. And your point about kids with a photographic memory getting confused makes a lot of sense (to me anyway). My son has mentioned his 'head hurting' from time to time as well. His neurologist said that *could* be from mini-siezures in the brain, or it could be from the stress that processing stimuli gives him. I don't think the 'average' child has issues like these, but I don't think we have to read the interpretation as schizophrenia either. Like you said, little kids--particularly those with some kind of language delay or quirk--may not be able to explain what they mean as well.