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OddFiction
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02 Oct 2010, 10:48 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:
AS kids do not respond well to authoritarian parenting or schooling. They live on logic, and if you can get them to understand the logic of a rule or request, they will do their best to comply. If you can't, they will do their best to make the rule irrelevent, and that can result in some interesting situations. If you can't explain a rule well enough for them to see the logic in it, it may be time to question the rule. If it is a school rule and not yours, so that you have no control over it, then use the logic of wanting to avoid consequences, snowball effect, and so on. At 13 they will care about their futures, if they haven't decided it is all hopeless (which is a real danger, and a new topic), and that angle can be played fairly effectively (the only reason my son will take notes in science, for example, is because he doesn't want a C in a class he should be able ace with his eyes closed - and they grade the notes).


This is something I pulled out of another thread that deserves it's own spot
Simply because it's an important truth and well phrased.


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03 Oct 2010, 5:57 am

This has generally been true for me. I remember in primary school I didn't listen to anyone and just did my own thing a lot of the time because it's what made sense to me, drove the teachers mad! :lol:



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03 Oct 2010, 12:31 pm

I got in trouble all the time as a kid for not listening because no one would tell me why I couldn't do something or even tell me what would happen if I did it. So I would do it and get into trouble and I make a fuss about it because why couldn't they tell me I get in trouble for it or even tell me what they were going to do to me? I was 12 when I realized people are just too lazy to say why.

Heck even NT kids do this too, it's called testing their limits and boundaries and see what they can get away with. Even if you have given them a logical reason why and told them of the consequence.

What made me follow rules was me not wanting to get punished and I hated getting punished. I was like a dog.



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03 Oct 2010, 12:40 pm

This was totally true for me. "Nobody tells ME what to do" was my mantra for my whole childhood.


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03 Oct 2010, 1:16 pm

This was/is me too. My favorite saying in high school was "where is it noted?" It makes no sense to have rules just for the sake of rules anyway, unless of course the rule maker is on a complete power trip. I expect (and hope) my kids will turn out the same way.



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03 Oct 2010, 2:06 pm

Very true of my son, and I was the same way, too.


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