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09 Mar 2013, 12:56 am

If these exist, are there any studies linking them to the exacerbation of autistic symptoms?

I had bad stomach pain after eating a certain food today and took some baking soda, and it was almost instantly gone. I think that indicates possible ulcers.

I'm thinking about getting this looked at even before trying to tackle allergies, though there's probably a relation.

Has anyone else dealt with peptic ulcers being linked to autistic behaviors? I'd imagine these could, at the very least, make food allergies worse, if leakage occurred into other parts of the body. I wonder if these could be related to what the GAPS diet recommended by some is supposed to help heal?



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09 Mar 2013, 5:33 am

Tyri0n wrote:
If these exist, are there any studies linking them to the exacerbation of autistic symptoms?

I had bad stomach pain after eating a certain food today and took some baking soda, and it was almost instantly gone. I think that indicates possible ulcers.


Eating a food and having stomach pain on one occasion is hardly a sign of an ulcer. If the pain recurs after a little while and keeps coming back, then you might have an ulcer.

If you do have an ulcer, go to a doctor. Most ulcers are caused by bacteria. Curing such ulcers is simple -- antibiotics. A recent Nobel Prize in Medicine was awarded to the Australian doctor who proved this.

If you occasionally get some pain after eating certain foods, it might be gastric reflux.

If you want to find out, see a doctor instead of jumping into quack diets.



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09 Mar 2013, 6:31 am

eric76 wrote:
Tyri0n wrote:
If these exist, are there any studies linking them to the exacerbation of autistic symptoms?

I had bad stomach pain after eating a certain food today and took some baking soda, and it was almost instantly gone. I think that indicates possible ulcers.


Eating a food and having stomach pain on one occasion is hardly a sign of an ulcer. If the pain recurs after a little while and keeps coming back, then you might have an ulcer.

If you do have an ulcer, go to a doctor. Most ulcers are caused by bacteria. Curing such ulcers is simple -- antibiotics. A recent Nobel Prize in Medicine was awarded to the Australian doctor who proved this.

If you occasionally get some pain after eating certain foods, it might be gastric reflux.

If you want to find out, see a doctor instead of jumping into quack diets.


Step 1: check for ulcers with a doctor

Step 2: quack diet

Perfect.

The stomach pain is all the time after multiple foods. This seems like something to rule out before considering allergies (and, hence, quack diets). Despite all my posts about quack diets, and gluten and such, I actually have not yet done anything. I just had a delicious bread bowl of soup at a bar two nights ago with a friend, and I had two cups of coffee today. I'm still in the information-gathering phase. But given my documented medical history of allergies, I think GI issues are a good bet, at least in my case.

I did commit to getting rid of ASD as much as humanly possible last fall when it nearly destroyed my life.



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09 Mar 2013, 12:54 pm

I mentioned earlier that my daughter responded well to CF diet when she was younger. Her pediatrician said it was because her gut was "immature" and allowing molecules to pass through that shouldn't (I guess that is pretty much what happens with leaky gut, right?) As her gut "matured" she no longer needed the restrictions. Looking back, none of this should have surprised me. When I was nursing her, I couldn't have any milk products without it affecting her negatively. Sadly, I listened to "professional advice" that said that at 12 months, she should begin switching to cow's milk. In hindsight, I should have known better. In case it is of interest to anyone, she was never a "typical" baby. It's not l like it all started at 12 months. However, it all did seem to start getting more apparent.

Here is my hypothesis about the link between her gut symptoms and her autistic symptoms: I think that her spaciness, lack of response to her name, low response to pain, etc. were all related to the casomorphins in her system. I think her irritability, SIBs, and frequent meltdowns were related to overall discomfort from eating food she couldn't properly digest. Removing the offending food made her appear less "autistic" but I don't think it made her less "autistic." I think it just made her better able to attend to and cope with the world around her. Having casein didn't make her more autistic, it just made her less able to attend to and cope with the world around her. Her actual autism was unrelated to casein, but the expression of her symptoms was not.

You can try an elimination diet. If you have food sensitivities, you should be able to parcel out which ones you have and then just make the adjustments to your diet. I, myself, am not a huge fan of running to doctors for every little thing. Doctors make mistakes, and when it comes to anything outside of mainstream medicine, many of them are horribly under-educated and prejudiced. Medicine is SLOW to change and adjust, sometimes failing to adopt new knowledge and practices for years or even decades. So sometimes it is best to educate yourself and be an active participant in your own treatment decisions.


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09 Mar 2013, 1:24 pm

I dont think one has to do with the other but they are both signs of a compromised immune system. Your body is unhealthy right now - lots of inflammation going on.



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09 Mar 2013, 2:54 pm

The symptoms of gastric ulcers aren't just stomach pain - my father was hospitalized with one. This looks like a pretty accurate list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peptic_ulc ... d_symptoms Throwing up blood (or digested blood which is supposed to look like coffee grounds) is an indicator of an acute ulcer, but before you get to that stage there is all kinds of random vomiting and lower GI symptoms.

I second the visit to the doctor: there is an easy test for an ulcer, which has been in use for years. If they suspect an ulcer, they will either have you swallow a stomach-coating barium liquid and they take an X-ray or they use an endoscope (a swallowable camera) and, basically, they look for problems.

There are other causes for ulcers besides the bacteria: overuse of OTC painkillers like aspirin and ibuprofen can be a cause as well. Be careful that any stomach remedies you take don't contain either (Pepto-bismol actually contains aspirin and isn't a good idea if you suspect an ulcer.)

GERD is much more common than ulcers and much more likely to be what you are experiencing, and there are all kinds of different ways to control it - diet, losing weight, OTC medications and prescription medications all the way up to surgery in extreme cases. The diagnostic methods are pretty similar to those of the ulcers (nowadays most people use an endoscope for both.)

Some people get symptoms due do a particular food intolerance, but GERD symptoms can also be exacerbated more generally, for instance by fatty, spicy, or very hot foods of any kind (meaning, most junk food.)