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14 Mar 2013, 11:59 am

My son is a problem child.

He backanswers, argues, doesnt complete his school work, doesnt pay much attention to studies

His major problem has been he does potty on his pants. Last sunday i was getting weird smell while passing
around the room.

I asked my son whether he made potty. He was watching TV sitting on the couch but he replied no
The smell was weird i asked him 3 times but he replied same thing thrice

Ultimately he admitted that he made potty in the pants
and then he ran to the washroom.

He is 9 years old now and displays loads of emotional issues.

Also he tells lots of lies.

I took him to a clinical psychologist who took down the history
And she told me she will do battery test
The test involves drawing, story writing and sentence completion WHO AM I??

The test will cost me 130dollars which is way too much for me
Also she said she will involve him in group theraphy
which again cost money

Is this worthwhile??? Pls Suggest


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14 Mar 2013, 12:47 pm

namaste - I know you've been around for quite a while now but could you refresh my memory on where you live? It makes a big difference on what advice people mught have for you.



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14 Mar 2013, 5:05 pm

I see two concerns, the first is the behavoir that you have described, the second is an explanation of why it is happening. With regard to the first a well qualified behavoir analyst (BCBA) should be able to help you with this, the second (and often more important in getting the first funded is the diagnosis) that would be well worth it


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14 Mar 2013, 11:40 pm

I am located in india

ABA is a assessment for children with autism, thats what i found when i did a web search

I just need someone to counsel him and i think such test are cheaper at govt run hospitals.


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15 Mar 2013, 11:02 pm

ABA is a type of treatment for children with autism. It involves studying their behavior and learning what their behavior is communicating, since they don't communicate well in other ways. It then involves helping you as a parent learn to communicate what you expect in a way that your child can understand.

Maybe you can find resources here? http://www.autism-india.org/afa_autisminindia.html or here http://www.autismsocietyofindia.org/



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16 Mar 2013, 1:40 am

momsparky wrote:
ABA is a type of treatment for children with autism. It involves studying their behavior and learning what their behavior is communicating, since they don't communicate well in other ways. It then involves helping you as a parent learn to communicate what you expect in a way that your child can understand.

Maybe you can find resources here? http://www.autism-india.org/afa_autisminindia.html or here http://www.autismsocietyofindia.org/


my son is not autistic he is naughty and emotionally disturbed


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16 Mar 2013, 2:32 am

Has autism been ruled out for sure? I ask only because from your post it sounded like he is just in the process of being diagnosed. Autistic kids can be well-behaved or appear "naughty" as you probably know, so that is why I ask. When you say "emotionally disturbed, do have a specific notion, or hunch of what that may be? That might help us make suggestions because what works for an NT vs. an autistic child vs. a child with some other issues could be very different.



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16 Mar 2013, 2:39 am

autism is severe form of disability
the child is shaky and unable to sit down still
i have attended autistic seminar
my son is plain naughty and indisciplined
and he makes potty in pants nothing more then that


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16 Mar 2013, 3:04 am

Autism ranges in severity. It might be defined differently in India, but here there is a whole range of mild to severe. On the mild side we have diagnosis that range from Aspergers, PDD-NOS and even with a diagnosis of autism, there is a spectrum there too. The diagnosis range will change with the new diagnosis structure coming up, but even the change will recognize different levels of autism severity.

My son is very smart, but has a lot of social and behavioral issues, so in some contexts he looks milder, and in others he looks more severe.

If your child has trouble sitting still this could be ADD or it could be autism, too. My son rocks in his chair and fidgets for sensory input. Sometimes he does not like to go to the bathroom for #2 because he does not want to interrupt his special interests when he is focused on them. When he is hyperfocused on something, I often have to watch him and if he is acting like he has to bm, and then prompt him. It has improved to where I am not prompting him as much as I had to, but I still have to watch him.

My son does not back talk, or lie. He does word things in less than polite ways because of social pragmatic language issues and the like. Does your son respond to conventional punishments and rewards?

I am not saying your child is autistic, but I would not rule out anything without actual testing. Does India have any free testing available through the schools? You could use that as a basis at least to see if you need to pay for additional testing or services like therapy. If your country does not have any free testing, I would see if there are any non-profit organizations that could advise you what type of testing you should pay for in order to get the most comprehensive information for the least money. I cannot tell from what you described how complete the testing would be. Group therapy might not be the type of help your child needs. There are all sorts of different therapies, depending on what your child's situation actually is.



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16 Mar 2013, 4:01 am

ASDMommyASDKid wrote:
Autism ranges in severity. It might be defined differently in India, but here there is a whole range of mild to severe. On the mild side we have diagnosis that range from Aspergers, PDD-NOS and even with a diagnosis of autism, there is a spectrum there too. The diagnosis range will change with the new diagnosis structure coming up, but even the change will recognize different levels of autism severity.

My son is very smart, but has a lot of social and behavioral issues, so in some contexts he looks milder, and in others he looks more severe.

If your child has trouble sitting still this could be ADD or it could be autism, too. My son rocks in his chair and fidgets for sensory input. Sometimes he does not like to go to the bathroom for #2 because he does not want to interrupt his special interests when he is focused on them. When he is hyperfocused on something, I often have to watch him and if he is acting like he has to bm, and then prompt him. It has improved to where I am not prompting him as much as I had to, but I still have to watch him.

My son does not back talk, or lie. He does word things in less than polite ways because of social pragmatic language issues and the like. Does your son respond to conventional punishments and rewards?

I am not saying your child is autistic, but I would not rule out anything without actual testing. Does India have any free testing available through the schools? You could use that as a basis at least to see if you need to pay for additional testing or services like therapy. If your country does not have any free testing, I would see if there are any non-profit organizations that could advise you what type of testing you should pay for in order to get the most comprehensive information for the least money. I cannot tell from what you described how complete the testing would be. Group therapy might not be the type of help your child needs. There are all sorts of different therapies, depending on what your child's situation actually is.

My son is so stubborn he is not bothered about rewards or punishments
He wants to do things his way.

in india there are no proper treatments available
all are out there to grab money

asperger and such things are still not discovered here
i need to search for free therapies
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16 Mar 2013, 8:17 am

Keep in mind that this is a board for parents of children with autism spectrum disorders or other neurological differences - so any answers you will find here will be from parents with that experience.

However, I will say one thing: whether your child is autistic or not, we have all learned that behavior is a form of communication. "Naughty" is a way of saying your child is behaving differently from the way you want, and it's understandable that this is frustrating for you.

However, I strongly suggest that you look more deeply at WHY he is behaving this way. I know it is exhausting to have a child that seems to deliberately make your life more difficult, and I feel for you - but the first step in changing his behavior, autistic or not, is understanding it. He may not be able to tell you in words what is going on, and this difficult and odd behavior may be the result.

Here are some articles to think about: http://www.thinkingautismguide.com/2011 ... utism.html

http://www.pacer.org/parent/php/php-c154.pdf

Professional help is definitely worthwhile, but I would caution you that if you suspect autism (which is, from what you wrote, difficult to determine but a possibility) you should find someone who knows about it.



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16 Mar 2013, 1:36 pm

thanks i will go through the attachments


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