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i read this somewhere. did anyone try magnesium and vitamin b?

Making a kid eat a bannana;;

Get some chocolate and marshmallows...
Open the skin of the bannana - slit it down the middle, lossen the bannaa inside it's skin, now fill with an even distibution of chocolate and marshmallows....wrap in foil, closing the skin around the stuffing, throw in warm coals, or bake at 150-200 degress C.

Broccoli - don't over cook it - just do it untill it is slightly less crunchy... to get them to eat it, cover in cheese sauce.... a great dish combination is skinless chicken broiled in cheese sauce, just dump the broccoli on the side, covered in the suace aswell - they will be more addicted to the cheese tase than anything else.

PS...Nearly everything has magnesium in it - just don't over cook it.

I'm curious too, I've heard Vitamin b-6 and magnesium together, mega doses though. I'm hesitant to try it because I don't know what the appriate dosage would be for my son. Some vitamins can become toxic if given too much!!

I like the food recipes, but my son will only eat a few different things, so I know he's really not getting what he needs thru food, supplements are needed on a regular basis for him.

Not being harsh but -> have we forgotten how to cook ? ...(from the mouth of some-one who is about to go to Maccas)

I talked to mum yesterday about the chees sauce...

She used chicken breast/backs and sometimes took the time to beat out some drumsticks. ( if you got the pun -> I know, I'm laughing too)

Get a lasagne Style Dish (square backing tray, preferable ceramic)
Dump the un-tenderised chicken(it can go a bit flaky if you beat it out)
--Suace:
Cheese, layered between the the layers of chicken. (From memory I think the chees was the cheep Coon style cheddar - this is an Aussie cheese, so you may have to experiment)
Sour Cream...pour it all over untill it's just covering everything (things are going to settle in the tray so try not to make it too runny)

-Bake/Broil -> I think the secret was getting the combinations right. Occasionally mum used to spike it with cottage cheese (I used to be able to tell), but you can leave this out and put it in for your own Adult batch when microwaving.(Dad would always just sprinkle chunks on to give it that taste -> goat chees can give it that chardonay zing)

Then with the broccolli, all you have to do when seting the plate, is sort of smear it with the sauce.

-Whalla -> one meal and the only thing missing is the bannana.


ANOTHER banna thing... When I was young(and today in my exuberant age) i hated bannanas... so my mum would slice them up and sugar coat them -literally, just put them on a tray and sprinkle crystal sugar all over it. (It's better than a Mars Bar, and probably has less sugar in it) -> note NutraSweet Won't work, Fructose is just yuk.


I think the key is with any meal that you are trying to educate 'Adult Tastes' to your child is sauce and combination,,, even adults at the restaurant dip thier vegies in the sauce of the meal.... but for the kid you just pre-dip it, when you realise they like it, next time you just instruct them to dip it... in effect teaching them the art of eating stuff that would otherwise be inedible without suace....

Soups/Stews/stroganoffs are also a good thing to be able to try out a diverse pallet... things like Vegie soup combos, with whole chicken in it(I could never eat boiled meat growing up -now I love it) , the stews, of ranging varieties, pumpkin, pea, lentil. Stroganoffs... beef and mushroom, capsicum and kabanna, etc...

Fish is difficult and time conuming, and very strong on the senses, so don't bother with it. (an episode of HuFF comes to mind) -> turn it into special occasions -> easter Xmas etc/whatever

Consult your local Ethnic Chef (except italian - those guys eat nothing other than tomatoes and pasta)

For example -> nearly all indian is a potatoe stew -> did you know you can ommit the curry and replace it with whatever dominating flavour you wish? -> paprika comes to mind.

Great thing about stews vs. meal cooking > you only have to do one batch -> and can feed an army for weeks on it. (getting hubby to get used to your meals I can't help with -> but on the other hand.... making him feel like he get's to eat his own food ( I am picturing the dominat male being happy about getting his peice from the kill and tucking away to a little corner to eat it) ..add something extra for the Adults, like the cottage cheese for the ChickyCheese)

Oh Don't forget the love - the last ingredient in any recipe (beleive they will feel it) (and you may get your very own bannana as a present )

PS.. Did you know Salt is NEEDED in order to be able to process food and vitamins in the body? -->check your child's salt intake...He could die without it,
did you know in any hikers emergency ration kit thier is 100grams of salt?

I'd heard about the B-6 thing, but read the original study (I believe it involved ADD/ADHD kids, not AS per se), and the dosages involved were right on the verge of toxicity. And you don't want toxicity from B-6, it manifests itself in damage to the nervous system. So I never tried it.

While I don't think there's anything wrong with some extra B-complex, and do give my kid (and everyone else in our aspie clan) several times the RDA, the one thing which I found made a pretty obvious difference was DMAE (dimethylaminoethanol). It's found naturally in fish, so it's something which is a normal part of the human diet, and it has no known toxicity at anything like the usual dosage. It was the subject of three studies (from 1958 to 1976), in the last of which the researchers concluded that it was about as effective as Ritalin for kids with ADD/ADHD. It has also been found to help in some cases of depression. In a more recent study (1995), it was also found to increase memory in rats. It's never had FDA approved as a treatment*, because DMAE can't be patented, so nobody is about to spend the money to do the trials that are required for approval -- there'd be nothing in it for the pharma companies. It's believed to work by being a precursor for the neurotransmitter acetylcholine, although the evidence is not entirely conclusive. Some is probably also converted into phosphatidyl DMAE in the brain, where it would serve as an antioxidant.

It does have one frequent side-effect, which is that if you take it very soon before trying to sleep, it'll start putting you into a dream state before you're fully asleep, and you may find youself lying there for a long time, having a lengthy dream without ever getting completely to sleep. And taking it at any time of day may cause dreams to be a bit more intense the following night.

My 9-year old calls it his "dream medicine," and it's the one supplement which he actually wants to take, because of how much it helps him maintain focus on his schoolwork.

Anyway, you might want to give it a try, it's only $5-$9 for a bottle of a hundred 100-mg. capsules, and is available at many health food stores, or online. 100 milligrams in the morning seems to help my kid a lot -- that's the same daily dosage that was used in the 1976 trials (they gave the kids 50 mg. twice a day).

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*A closely related compound, DEAE, had FDA approval in the '60s and '70s, until the patent ran out and requirements for approval changed, putting DEAE into the same economic boat as DMAE -- no money in it, so no pharma company would pay for the trials. DEAE was approved for treatment of:
1. Learning problems associated with underachieving and shortened attention span.
2. Behavior problems associated with hyperactivity.
3. Combined hyperkinetic behavior and learning disorders with underachieving, reading and speech difficulties, impaired motor coordination, and impulsive/compulsive behavior, often described as asocial, antisocial or delinquent.

Having excess vitamins can be pretty harmful so be careful, before trying this book an appointment with a dietician

Why not just use DHEA!! ..it also gives you that mood boost.... and helps the human race by tweeking your reproductive system!

--> why is a pill and book leraning always the answer.... read my post about using your Spam Filter. (just because you read books in medicine, doesn't make you a doctor)