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11 Jun 2016, 9:37 am

So when will the announced games at E3 actually be released? In 2018,2019, or 2020?
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11 Jun 2016, 12:45 pm

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I expect gamers to whine non-stop that E3 doesn't show 100 percent games they love. People still don't get the concept of E3- its for the big names more than the indies. There is plenty of indie events all year, why must E3 instantly change to indie stuff because people whine? People just need something to complain about. Don't watch it- PROBLEM SOLVED! Do stuff you enjoy.

Anyway.. I don't usually watch E3 much. Better announcements and reveals happen a ton at other times in the year. Plus I don't follow many new games anymore.


The same can apply to Japanese games in that they don't get the spotlight (bar a few exceptions) and you have to go to other events to find out about them. I'm not expecting Sony's E3 conference to feature games like Senran Kagura but at the same time some diversity outside of Square Enix would be a plus. Not everything is just AAA Western and indie in the games industry.

Plus, when you're really wanting a game to get translated that dosen't for whatever reason, then you'll understand one reason why people get upset about their most wanted games not appearing.


Alright- I stand corrected: AAA, niche titles (not always indie) and indies. Either way.. people don't understand what E3 is, so they complain anyway. There is zero good reason for E3 to spotlight indy stuff, because one of the purposes of E3 is to showcase the more mainstream (AAA games mainly).. its how its usually been! Sure they could change, but why? Like I said before- there is plenty of conventions for indie games and the rest.

Let's just guess here- if E3 spotlighted everything, how could they reasonably do it? If they did a little bit of each type of game each day.. I guess it could work. But realistically- I doubt E3 will be the event niche and indie game fans like a lot. I still stand firmly by my "complain to complain" quote above. People act like gaming is horrible because of this or that, but its not hard to focus on the stuff you like.

They arent forcing you to watch. They arent forcing you to buy the games you don't like. (This is similar to how people bash movies they've never seen, just over how the plot looks or the actors or whatever). Fine- watch E3 for what you want, but don't act surprised if it has a lot of junk in it you dont want. Ignore that stuff and move on. Its a simple concept.


Fair play. Even a sizzle real of Japanese games coming west could work though. XSEED are localising Trails of Cold Steel II, which would be a good thing to spotlight. Likewise, Fate/Extella. Or a bit of everything - ask localisers to ocme on and show their latest stuff, or some of the Japanese devs/pubs even host their own conferences. Like Kadokawa Games. They'll be hosting a conference at the same time as E3 and their lineup of in progress games is perhaps the most interesting to the niche market. Root Letter and God Wars look awesome.

With regards to TGS, I watched last years conference and there was a wide range of games unveiled. One Piece: Burning Blood, 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim and Yakuza: Kiwami were all announced. There was a good amount of Western content too. I recall Call of Duty even made an appearance. The vast majority are Japanese, with Western content peppered here and there. Heck, Genkai Tokki Moero Crystal (a very niche fanservice game) was revealed to be getting an Asian English/Chinese release in Sony's Asian conference, and that was in a stream of a ton of other Western and Japanese games. How it should be.

I would argue E3 should be similar, but with Western content taking the lead (obviously due to the market) and Japanese content peppered and available. And I don't just mean Japanese developed games with what some would consdier a Western aesethic (ie. Dark Souls). I mean a wide range, from Persona/Dragon Quest to even some moe games (like the Touhou Project games coming to PS4/Vita and almost anything by Compile Heart).

People have spent the last 10 years going to E3 to see the new Call of Duty and Ubisoft game(s).

XSeed doesn't get much coverage and attendance at their booth when they've been at E3.
Xseed being niche, it doesn't interest the Westerners at all.

The biggest booths in attendance and press coverage are always:

Activision (not at E3 this year)
EA (not at E3 this year)
Ubisoft (Tons of free stuff given here and tickets to the big after party)
Sony (SCEA does it and makes sure it damn well focused on content the U.S. wants. They also give lots of free stuff and tickets to the big after party).
Microsoft (Tons of free stuff given here and tickets to the big after party)
Nintendo (the have normally have the biggest amount of playable demos)

Hell Activision when at E3 had one of the highest booth attendance, even though they just showed a reel of the new Call of Duty footage and giving away Call of Duty swag.

Nintendo is the only true Japanese company with Japanese content to get decent booth attendance, even though they are way behind the rest of the companies I listed.
To be fair Nintendo doesn't give away much free stuff and they don't do a big adult after party for the press like the other companies do.
Nintendo will probably be laughed out of E3 regardless of what they show by press and attendees because they don't like E rated colorful games being at E3.
Nintendo has been laughed out of the past 12 E3s for being too "kiddie" and "casual".
This is very likely this is the last year Nintendo shows at E3.

The other Japanese developers and publishers including Sega, Atlus, Capcom, Square-Enix etc... tend to be skipped in favor of Western content.

I mean Sony, Microsoft, Ubisoft and Activision typically do huge after parties with alcohol, gourmet food, hot easy women for sex, etc...

This is why the press loves them and gives them all that positive coverage (required to get in).

After E3 the next major gaming Conference/show is Paris Games Week next month and Gamescon in Germany (August) which as big as E3.
TGS is September which is as big as E3, followed by PAX in October (U.S. show, though only Nintendo, Atlus and a few smaller companies show) then Fighting Game tourney in November in the U.S., followed by PS Experience in December where Sony promises to show Japanese content coming to the U.S.

Sony claims they have been told over the years, that E3 is for American stuff by the attendees and press and not to bother with Japanese content.


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11 Jun 2016, 8:14 pm

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I mean Sony, Microsoft, Ubisoft and Activision typically do huge after parties with alcohol, gourmet food, hot easy women for sex, etc...

This is why the press loves them and gives them all that positive coverage (required to get in).


....what. Surely that cant really be the case?

Ugh. Every time I think this industry and related things cant get any lower, it proves me wrong.



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11 Jun 2016, 8:17 pm

I wish Nintendo Power would be revived. I have to get all of my gaming information online now. I miss their quirky sense of humor. :(


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11 Jun 2016, 10:04 pm

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I mean Sony, Microsoft, Ubisoft and Activision typically do huge after parties with alcohol, gourmet food, hot easy women for sex, etc...

This is why the press loves them and gives them all that positive coverage (required to get in).


....what. Surely that cant really be the case?

Ugh. Every time I think this industry and related things cant get any lower, it proves me wrong.

Yes they do, Sony went crazy with it during PS2 era.
ESA been fighting because of "issues" that have been leaking out over the years...

Major publishers and developers including EA, Ubisoft, Microsoft Activision, Sony, Bethesda... blacklist the press when the press reports negative stuff about them and "entices" them to get good press.
I mean Microsoft takes the press to regular 4 star resorts for all expense paid trips for being good to Microsoft.

Kotaku was blacklisted from Ubisoft because they refused to takedown the true Expose on how Ubisoft treats it's employees.
Many outlets were blacklisted from Microsoft for giving Halo 4, Halo MCC and Halo 5 negative reviews and press.
EA, Sony, Bethesda, and Activision have all done something similar over negative reviews and coverage of their games.

Strangely Nintendo lets the press run whatever they want, rarely saying anything...
Granted Nintendo doesn't wine and dine the press like it's major competitors do.


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12 Jun 2016, 4:38 am

I expect a ten foot tall Kaz Hirai to rampage through the showfloor. Crushing underfoot any who disagreed with the $600 price point of the PS3.

Then Valve will announce it's future games are going to be exclusive to the Sega Saturn.

Finally, Beyond Good and Evil 2 will be announced as a pachinko machine.


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12 Jun 2016, 3:28 pm

First leak is in

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12 Jun 2016, 3:32 pm

It looks rather..... Plain..



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12 Jun 2016, 8:42 pm

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/all-of ... 0-6440725/

Read this link if you want to know what games Microsoft is unveiling tomorrow.
Yes Microsoft's E3 has been mostly leaked, though there is a good chance of other non leaked games from Microsoft.

Microsoft officially responded to the leak with ¯\_(ツ)_/.
Yes they really used the emoticon as their response.


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12 Jun 2016, 10:28 pm

I'm looking forward to Fallout 4 in VR. Not so sure about Doom. The latter is kind of a weird fit for VR, with constant acceleration and deceleration and high velocity movement. It's something I'd be curious to try, but I think I'd rather play that on a monitor.



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12 Jun 2016, 10:29 pm

xenocity wrote:
Microsoft officially responded to the leak with ¯\_(ツ)_/.
Yes they really used the emoticon as their response.


Well, I see the comedy aspect is off to a good start. Promising.



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13 Jun 2016, 10:54 am

It's official Skyrim Rema... I mean Special Edition announced for PS4/XB1 and PC for October 28th.
PS4/XB1 versions will support mods.
This version had remastered HD assets.


Anyone up for a redux of Skyrim?


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13 Jun 2016, 11:07 am

I am, since the PS3 version ran like crap.



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13 Jun 2016, 12:01 pm



The console also features a 4K Blu-ray drive capable of UHDR as well (You need a 4K TV to take advantage of it).

Oh to win over "hardcore" gamers, Xbox One S does not have a port for Kinect 2.0.
You must buy the USB Port to hook up Kinect 2.0 to use it.

500GB Xbox One S is launching later this year for $299 (which makes it the cheapest 4K Blu-ray player and probably being sold at a huge loss).


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13 Jun 2016, 5:53 pm

Xbox One Scropio (Xbox 1.5) and Xbox VR are announced for Holiday 2017


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13 Jun 2016, 5:58 pm

All Sony needs is some great exclusives and they'll come out on top.