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heh ok that explains a lot.

The biggest reason I quit was the fact in order to get into high end raid, you have to go though a courtship with the bigger end-game guilds in your server; which I refuse. So, instead I would bounce from one crummy guild to the next, spend 10+ hours a week in naxx cause they can't find healers or people have to leave in the middle of the raid because something came up, ect.

... hence why they want to take the Theorycraft out of WoW by homogenizing the stats and making every attack/spell instant cast.

You might want to consider looking at DC Universe Online if you want a challenge... or just want something entirely new.

No. Naxx at best could be cleared in what, 3-4 hours when LK first went live. Now it's almost a two hour long raid.

You only needed to go through the courtship with the hardcore end-game guilds if you want to do the heroic version of a specific raid. Most guilds would be ecstatic if they killed the Lich King on either normal 10 or 25 man.

I'm in a family casual type guild and we're 11/12 in ICC 10 and 7/12 in ICC 25.

In ideal conditions yea. What I'm talking about though, is when I spent many nights wiping, people rage quitting, finding replacements, spending 15 minutes go over strategies if we brought someone new in which happen every time I was in there, then getting wiped again within a minute.

Oh yea I hate the idea of gear score as well. If I ever found the genius that created the idea of gear scores, I'd punch him right in the face.

I raided hardcore for nearly two years. In the end, I got burnt out on it. End game guilds are very high stress. In my case, I wound up with a guild/raid leader with serious anger management issues who found me to be an easy target. Got bored with ICC and tired of being a verbal punching bag.

So, like some others here, my biggest objection to wow is that there really is no alternative to being in a guild if you want to see a lot of the end game content.

[Oh, and for gearscore haters, this is the creator: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... =Arxkanite

You can listen to a podcast interview with him here: http://brigwyn.com/2010/01/14/episode-2 ... gearscore/ ]

That's because the whomever is running the raid expects the people to know the fights before they even enter the raid. No one likes explaining boss fights in old content like Naxx. In ICC, I can see them explaining things a bit.

... and yeah, Gear Score does not equal skill.

I would definately be interrested in an aspie guild on the european servers. I have been on a few, and I wouldnt mind rolling an alt to see how it'd be like. Maybe with time i'd also move one of my high-end characters to it

Nice to see this ideal is still welcomed.

Come Cata I'm gonna be a Worgen Rogue named Duskhowl Worgen Priest names WorgenFleaman or a Worgen Druid named Howlitsdone.

I got my Pally and my Druid and love them both but have no idea which I am going to roll more as in Cataclysm. I love tanking on my Pally and rolling as a crit chicken/tree on my Druid and one thing I've found is that my obsession with playing my classes well has paid off to an entent.

On another front speaking of WoW - Anyone find it hard to consistently stay in guilds, or am I just the only one?

I'll join, what server for us US players? And is this gonna be Alliance or Horde?

I tend to be more Alliance sided.

I was thinking of making the guild on a Realm where none of us have any other characters on to give us a good equal footing in Leveling.

You're not the only one. Its rare I find a guild where I find myself staying for more than three months. Either the guild dies, falls inactive or some kind of drama surfaces, and then I just can't be bothered with staying. Im not a drama type of person, and well, dead guilds are dead. Sometimes I also just find a better offer, like a guild thats more social and such or perhaps where I know more people.
Its a bit annoying not to be able to find stability, also because in eyes of others you get the dreaded "guildjumper" stamp, which can prevent you from being accepted into guilds in the future.

I see a lot of people here complaining about raids . . . well, raiding guilds are a hit or miss scenario if you're looking for one. If you want into one, find a group that labels itself "Casual," as they don't have any real need for you to be a cookie cutter. As far as specs are concerned with them, these types want you to find what works for you and the group (meaning that they want to progress as much as you do, but you need to be able to pack as much damage as possible). Admittedly, I started raiding as a Survival Hunter, which worked pretty good in Naxx, but for Ulduar, I had to switch to Marks just because of the need for a higher damage output (I made that decision though, no one else). Admittedly, I play on the Horde side, and, from experience, they seem to be a bit more mature than the Alliance players (too many kids play Allies, thinking they're the "good guys"). It's just a trend, nothing personal to the alliance players, as I started off with a NE Hunter, but ended with a BE Hunter.

Aye hardcore guilds is not the place to start as a new Raider.
I had my own Raiding guild through Naxxramas (wotlk) progression, wich was pretty casual but we still made it to the end. Sadly it died when ulduar launched, and then I decided to go hardcore, moving into the servers third best guild progression wise.
That eventually made me burn out after some time, I raided 4-5 nights per week with 4hr raids, and thats where I went into roleplaying instead with the occational pug to keep my gear somewhat good.
Last week I joined my current realms 8th best progression guild and am having loads of fun with them, this night we were on Lich King 25man and got him all the way to 38% wich is an improvement from 45% (goal is 10% unlike every other boss wich is 0%)
I have 3-4 raid nights per week of where three of them are only 3 hr raids so its quite manageable.
Usually casual raiding guilds has a designated class leader, to help everyone max out their dps.

On that note if anyone needs help with destruction warlock raiding, i'll gladly be of assistance.

I'd be interested, but I simply abhor the idea of being alliance. I actually do have one alliance character, but only ever got it to level 43...I continue to play very sporadically on that particular character out of sheer, unbridled boredom. (And then feel absolutely terrible for having used the character again.)

I would consider rolling another alliance character though... if this guild plans on doing decent progression raiding, because I simply can't stand not having something shiny and new in the game. Doesn't have to be something top notch, but competent at the very least.

I'll keep my eyes peeled to see what you guys do.

Well, the only thing we'd have to do is decide on what type of realm (PvE, PvP, RP, RP-PVP), then go from there. Granted, a lot of us will either move characters, or just start fresh. HOwever, with as spread out as we are, no telling how many of us will be on at any one time for group dungeons and whatnot (know it's hard for an Aussie to be on an American server because so few are on). Personally, I'd recommend either PvE or RP servers.