wow cataclysm changes like or don't like?

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ok i'm making this cause someone started this discusion with me on the wrong topic, so i'll make this.

first off i don't hate all the changes but i do hate most of them.

defense is getting taken way so that to me gives everyone the same defense as a tank or no defense at all, bullcrap i say. besides what do tanks work towards now armor? isn't that what all classes work for is there no uniqueness in tanks anymore.

health is being raised for dps and healers and droped for tanks, what!? the tank is always supposed to have more health then everyone, that's why they are called tanks, sure this will pervent wipes more but it makes no sense to me, i had a warrior who i was planning on tanking with but i gave up when i read all the changes. then i quit the game.

warriors are getting nerfed as usual, the whole warrior changes seemed like nothing but bad, first off they are making an alternative to titan's grip, many of you may hate the skill but at least to made us warriors look different then rogues, with two dual handed weapons at least we actually looked more like warriors. granted they are not taking titan's grip away but i still don't like this skill.

hunters are the only ones changes i moderatly aprove off mainly the fact that you can take 5 pets with you at all time, sure only one is active but at least we don't have to wait 30 minutes for a skill to cooldown in order to get a new pet or run all the way back to town to get a new pet, and you can keep a ton of pets in the stables if i remember correctly.

needless to say these were the only stats i remember as i haven't visted the forums in months.

I am quite openminded towards Cataclysm. I think it will be interresting to see all these new touches to the game, and so far I also like the changes that are happening for the Warlock (wich is the main class I play) plus we get green fire. Thats just epic.
Im looking forward to exploring all the zones and see the new changes up close, not to mention try and level up in this altered world.
I do think it is sad that alot of things from azeroth becomes unavaliable, and I definately think that Blizzard should open up realms designed for the content pre-cataclysm (perhaps even pre-TBC aswell) if anything, to shut up the people who say that the game is being ruined. I don't think WoW is being ruined, everything changes and even though WOTLK had its downsides, overall I really like it.

Of course there is some things I dislike. For example the implementation of Draenei Warlocks and Night Elf mages. It makes no sense what so ever in the lore that the two societies will even allow these classes to exist. Warlocks throughout the alliance is already commonly hated, but to implement them amongst a race wich near-demise was caused by a warlock.. Insanity.
Night elf mages is practicually the same when it comes to the hatred.

I wish that Blizzard would pay more attention to the roleplay aspect of the game. I know roleplayers is only a "small" bit of the wow-players, we are the ones making the most out of the lore. Its not like normal PvE/PvP players even care about why deathwing has been awoken. Some things i'd like to see implemented is doors that have a click-on open/close function.
Something I am already happy about is the news of Blizzard opening all the doors in the stormwind buildings, giving much more oppotunity for stormwind roleplay.
And of course I have my worries about the two new classes. I won't be rolling one in the beginning because I think its going to be an absolute overrun madness of people on the same quests.

I could say tonnes more, but i'll stick with that for a starter...

i'll give it a shot but to be honest, i expect to quit within a few weeks. so far i hate most of the 'improvements'.

OMFG! Hate! They nerfed my class and made the others easy mode! Teh game suxxorz!! !

(Translation from Gamer to English: I just spent two years setting up all my key-bindings so that if I fall asleep in the middle of a raid or a PvP battle, when my face hits the keyboard it'll still press all the right buttons for me to win the fight, and now it's all changing and I won't be able to rule the World of Warcraft any more! Sob sob sob!)

I'm looking forward to some of the changes. One could actually make a case for both draenei warlocks and nelf mages - after all, they've seen those classes at work among their allies, and so far the humans and dwarves haven't gone insane with magic addiction or demonic possession and tried to eat the cosmos, so maybe with some guidance they too can avail themselves of power to use against the Horde/the Burning Legion (I don't get the feeling that the draenei are that worried about the Hordies on Azeroth, because both sides fight the Legion whenever it shows up. Elves are good at holding grudges, though).

But as I've said before, what I really want, as a regular Alliance player, is to have a worgen death knight mounted on a Mekgineer's Chopper.

just so you know i have struggled in wow since day 1, i have never keybound anything i click with my mouse all the buttons that make my warrior fight. i am not hating on wow, i've watched blizz destroy my class left and right, i am an aspie so the only way i could get armor was through auction house till they made dungeon finder, i can't fall asleep without pills, i have never been good at pvp i get slaughtered, i have never ruled or owned wow.

i am just tired of dragging my warrior through the dirt just to get her to the next level, my anger is genuine here, i've never been good at wow in away way shape or form, this is because my reaction timing is horrible at best, do you even know what it is like having every class beat you down in pvp not being able to fight them or hurt them cause my mind could not keep up with the other players teleporting around me like i had major lag.. but regardless i kept pushing forward through all my own and the game's problems.

in time and with dungeon finder, my own hunter, and several years of struggle, i got myself a silver covenant flying mount a chopper and a full set of teir 9, but despite being specced for tanking and geared for it i couldn't i failed my dps was never more then 2k the only raid i ever got in i failed at personally.

if you think you know me well look up my armory for dcnight on cenrion circle, and look at my stats. look at my weapons gems and armor those tell the story. heck my hunter is still in half crap armor, i quit wow ultimately because i felt i had done the best i could with what i had and could do, i got everything i wanted and was satisfied and thus i quit the game had nothing more that it could offer me, it was a hard decsion but i made it for the last time. and now that they are ruining the game with the changes and real id i'm not going back.

i was never good at wow and on top of that i had a friend [if you could call him that] that harrased me constantly kept telling me to leave wp, because he was infactuated by me and you guys kept telling me to ditch him, which i find that i did so to late. and you think you can judge me.

I can deal with some of these changes.

On the other hand, if I find ONE sign of another forced (literaly) PvP, in my PvE servers, aka pre-release week that remembles that South park epesode, ever again I will be miffed at Blizz. forever! They clearly don't want my payments then.

I just think its too soon, really. The Draenei was attempted erased from the universe three years ago, and ask we all know Draenei do not age. Therefore one should think that, despite their natural good being, once they really hate something, they wont let it go. Rather, I think that the Draenei can and possibly will hold grudges for longer than night elves.

Oh, I wasn't aiming that at you, Jetfox - I was mocking the stream of complaints that inevitably come out any time anything is changed in WoW. They always b!tch about the same things, and it pretty much boils down to "Things aren't as easy for me as they were before, and now somebody else can do as well as me at something!" Of course, pointing this out to the complainers doesn't help, but it can lead to some entertaining QQ on the WoW forums...

i wish they'd make changes to paid character transfer
TBH I didn't find wotlk difficult enough, but most people on the server would quit if end game required some strat like previously.

oh sorry, i thought you were talking about me, yeah alot of wow players are like that, i feel kinda bad now sorry about the huge rant. but hey everyone needs to rant now and then.

I can't really follow a lot of the changes, for some reason I don't notice most of the subtle things when they change them. I think I'm more of a WoW tourist. I don't raid, don't team, don't do dungeons, I just do whatever looks interesting. And I think the damage to Azeroth looks very interesting. So once it's out and the lag lightens a bit, I'll be flying about (I didn't misunderstand that, did I? We are getting to fly everywhere?) and sight-seeing. All I need is a piece of sapient pearwood luggage and my only lvl 80 will be on her way.

Just make sure your guildmates know better than to try to look inside your Luggage. Anybody else, well, they shouldn't have been nosy, should they?

Well said! I've been watching Youtube features about Cataclysm, and the TotalHalibut dude said people who liked sightseeing would love it. H'ray! He showed all sorts of wonders... I can't wait to see them. Now I need a Hawaiian shirt...

Personally, I'm looking forward to this game. Tauren pallys and goblins! Plus hunters (like me!) get to carry around more pets and I thought I heard something about no ammo which means I can get another bag to carry around instead of that stupid quiver or bullet bag, and I can spend all that money I save on something to defend against those freaking gnomes that always go after me.

UPDATE: Blizzard has now officially announced that Cataclysm will be releasing on Pearl Harbor Day of this year (that's December 7, for those of you who aren't US history buffs...). And this time they're being a little smarter - if the local game store runs out of copies, or you just don't want all that physical stuff cluttering up your meatspace, it will be available as a digital download from the Blizzard WoW website.

The changes that I've read about seem ok to me so far. I shall reserve final judgement until cat is released and I've played for a while. People who read about some changes and start QQing "I'm gonna quit WoW whaaaaaaa", without actually experiencing the changes annoy me a little. Sorry.