New Super Smash

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So i got to play the new Super Smash Bros. game last night, and with 8 people. I gotta say, it's one of the most intense game expediences out there.

Yes, this, FINALLY, it came out. FINALLY.

The 8-way Smash I personally dont really care about... seems to devolve way too quickly into random button-mashing (which I find boring) as most stages are too cramped for it, and those few that are large enough just lead to the camera zooming out WAAAAAYYYYYYYYY too far.

Everything else though.... ahhh, it's glorious, it is. I say this both as a fan of the series and a fan of fighting games in general.

I could do without the Dr. Wily stage though (fight interrupted much too often by the big yellow guy that takes a million years to go away and hogs the entire level while he's there) or that new Donkey Kong one with the alternate bit way off in the background (I'm nearsighted enough as it is...sigh)

Still, whether I'm playing it with items and stuff on, or playing it in the less-interesting flat/itemless way (which I only do when required, as it's just not as interesting to me regardless of my skill overall), it's bloody great as a whole. Fantastic game so far.

I mostly love it....however, it's so hard in a largely cheap & frustrating way that it's making me suicidal. Plus, there's so much reused assets from Brawl ( seriously, they practically dumped Brawl's OST into the new game and added more to it ) and a lot of redundant material ( do we really need 5 versions of the DK Jungle theme? or 4 versions of Green Greens? ) not to mention the trophies shared with the 3DS version have the exact same text which feels lazy to me....

Is there a power save device for Wii U yet? I'll need one for this game, the challenges are IMPOSSIBLE.....the trophies & music are my main source of enjoyment in Smash yet knowing I can't do the obnoxious bullcrap Sakurai in his infinite trollness requires in order to unlock songs & trophies makes me feel like I didn't get a complete game

That said though, still very proud of myself for somehow beating Classic 9.0 on the 3DS Smash with a custom Link ( who I was BARELY able to beat 5.5 with on Wii U ) thereby leaving only the bs RNG for the last 30 give or take custom moves and around 10 hats for 100% on 3DS.

This game and Bayonetta 2 really make me want a wii-u, but is the netcode better than the 3ds version?

I'm excited to try 8 player smash. The game as a whole looks awesome.

Okay, so, some more time with the game here.... as is typical for me, my opinions on things in games tend to change alot as I get more and more time with them. It takes quite awhile for me to decide on a "final" opinion.

The equipment and such in the game.... maybe not so pointless. The single-player stuff, the more I mess with it, has more value than I thought, as unlike the previous games, the AI isnt totally braindead, and on top of that, the game tends to give conditions for many fights that really tilt the odds against you. Like the Crazy Hand missions... you'll want all the help you can get with those. Or the main "classic" mode, which is simple, but can be amazingly difficult. Expect to lose in that one, possibly often, depending on the difficulty level you choose. Again, you'll want all the help you can get.

In addition to this, I went and bought 3 Amiibo figures to try them out, after hearing some interesting things about them. The AI that these use.... is interesting. Very interesting. They start out weak and sad, unable to do very much against you or against anyone. The more you fight them though, the more they learn, and what they learn and how they use it is dependant on YOUR fighting style. So you'll end up with an Amiibo character that'll fight very differently than that same character bought and trained by a friend, and such as that. The more they learn, the nastier they get. The AI for these can actually go REALLY far. They'll learn how to use all of their normal moves and specials, how to dodge and what to do with the shield, combos, and they'll even learn how to make use of items that show up, including proper use of the Final Smash. You can also increase their stats by feeding them unnecessary equipment, and they'll also increase as the thing levels up (up to level 50). It's sorta expected that if you're fighting these, you're using some equipment and such of your own, though you dont have to.


I also continue with online mode.... "for fun" is still kinda irritating with the accursed time mode. For Glory is.... hmmm. Well, as is typical for fighting games, you'll tend to see certain characters over and over and over and over and over and over. You know.... the "tiers" and all of that crap, where everyone chooses characters based entirely around that. The Fire Emblem characters... I hate them all... are the most common, because swords. Of course, to me the tiers only mean so much. In other fighting games, I will often choose whoever is the lowest on the list, to go up against the high ones, just to make a point, and chances are I"m the one winning. I'm going for the idea of doing the same in this version of Smash. My best character by far is Bowser, and I'll just say that he's not exactly losing very often. And some players just dont seem to have a clue as to what to do against heavy characters (and he's the heaviest in the game), particularly when that heavy character is capable of extremely sudden and fast attacks, such as Bowser's Whirling Fortress, which I've found to be an amazingly effective attack, among others, regardless of mode; works well 1-on-1, works well in a 4 player match also, as it can hit all 3 opponents at once very easily.

That's not to say that NOBODY uses other characters than the high-tier group, but still, you'll see the high ones way, way too often.

Also the boss fight against the Hands can be.... annoying. Particularly if Master Core shows up... I'm not exactly sure just what conditions cause Crazy Hand to transform into that horrible thing, but it happens OFTEN for me.

I've got the 3DS version. It's pretty awesome, though I wish they would write better netcode for it. For some reason, most of the people I end up playing against online have Japanese names. I don't know if they're actually from Japan or if it's just become a trend for people to put kana in their screen names, but the idea of being able to play a Smash game with people on the other side of the world is pretty sweet.

I know Brawl had online play as well, but by the time I tried it, it was already dead, so this is pretty much the first one I've played much online.

Anyway, my main is Toon Link, because I mained Link on the previous games and memorized his moveset pretty well, but I wanted to play as someone who was lighter and faster. It took some getting used to, not having as much weight and not being able to soak up as much damage, but now I'm getting the hang of playing as him, and I'm doing not too badly.

I would main Fox as well, as I kicked ass with him on Melee, but they really seem to have nerfed him for this one, even more so than they did for Brawl. Actually, if there's only one complaint I have about this Smash aside from the netcode, it's the fact that a lot of the character balance has been really screwed up. There are some characters that just really, really, need to be nerfed, particularly Palutena and Rosalina, as well as a few characters that could use a healthy power boost.

I generally prefer playing "for glory" because it has a one-on-one mode, it lags a LOT less, and there aren't any annoying environmental hazards like autoscrolling. It just feels a lot more "fair", and it makes it easier for me to unleash my skills. And I'm speaking as someone who used to detest the tournament players who took Smash way too seriously.

"For fun" would be much better if it had more options, and if the netcode were improved to better handle dynamic stages with multiple players. Two-minute matches are too restricting; I'd like to have the option of going into a 5 or even 10 minute match. A "casual" dueling mode with items and dynamic stages enabled would be nice too.

New Super Smash is such a strange case, in that it has some glaring issues, but it's still a really solid, fun game. Since the 3DS and the Wii U can actually handle DLC somewhat acceptably, I think it would be awesome if Nintendo released an update that added some extra modes. Hell, they could do it as an expansion pack, and I would still buy it. Just as long as they don't go the route of nickel-and-diming with tons of microtransactions; one big expansion should be enough, like it was in the good old days.

I love both versions of the game.

The 3DS one is a great portable version that makes for a good companion to the Wii U version.
Though if you play the 3DS game on the New 3DS (Japan and AUS), it has near instant load times and allows for Miiverse posting.
It also uses Amiibos as well.


The Wii U version is just oozing charm and perfection...
I do not care for 6-8 player smash, because I find it too disorienting.
I love all the unlockables... So many songs and trophies.

I also own Villager and Link Amiibos... I just love them.
Next up is Zelda next Sunday.

My main characters are:
1) Ike
2) Villager
3) Zelda
4) Shulk
....

My favorite levels:
1) Pac-man stage - the one with in maze with the pellets (3DS)
2) Dr. Willy's stage, I love detonating the yellow guy
3) Duck hunt stage - if you kill the ducks, they will drop items (Wii U)
3) The new FE stage (Wii U)
4) The Angry Mom stage (Wii U)
5) Nintendogs stage (3DS)
6) Sonic Lost Worlds stage (Wii U)
7) Star fox Armada stage (Wii U)
The Miiverse stage - when it comes out (Wii U)
9) Pokemon stage (Wii U)
10) Pokemon stage (3DS)

Ohh so much to like, not enough good moods to enjoy it all (Haven't played in 3 days)

Also make sure to register both versions on Club Nintendo before mid January, to ensure you get Mewtwo DLC and the Soundtrack.