World of Warcraft problems - want opinions

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Ever since first playing WoW in late 2010, it's always gave me some sort of problem. Despite this, I've never been able to not play the game for very long. Although the new expansion is coming at the end of August, I once again find myself wondering if continuing to play the game is something I should consider not doing anymore.

I use a rotation helper because I suck at manually using a rotation. In an elitist environment where you have to be super-good, pressing keyboard keys that are numerous and spread out can be quite a task. This gets worse when you have to "tank" - getting the target's attention so it doesn't murder everyone else.

In WoW, tanks get fast entry into queues, but the responsibility of the role has stressed me out a fair bit. On the flip side, damage dealers have low responsibility, but their queue times can be horrendous bordering on insane. So I'm either forced to wait for who knows how long, or I have to deal with other players who, more often than not, insult me if I do even one thing wrong, even if it wasn't deliberate.

I've also played practically every class and specialization in the game that I care to try (all damage dealers, all tanks, some healers). This includes the Demon Hunter on the Beta client, which I have access to. Damage dealers are fun (ranged ones more so in my case), but again their queue times suck beyond belief. I enjoyed the near-impervious nature of tanks, but the proverbial weight on my shoulders has annoyed me many times.

All of this isn't to say I don't enjoy WoW's story, and many of it's characters. And those cut-scenes - damn fine work on Blizzard's part. But on and off, perhaps with ever-shortening time, I'm questioning my future with this game.

I've thought maybe I was addicted in the past. Perhaps not though. If my pet cat needs something, I attend to him. If my parents need help, I go help them. If one of my few friends wants to hang, I go do that. But in between all of that, I have almost nothing else to do, so I game a fair bit. And for ages, WoW has been my game of choice.

I've played and do play other games from time to time, but it's not for very long. Two games I bought previously, Starcraft 2: Legacy of the Void and CoD: Advanced Warfare, were easily completed in a few short days (their single-player campaigns). So I'm weary about buying other games now, for concern that I'll play them for a few days and then get bored of them just as quickly.

So all in all, despite the fantastic nature of Warcraft's lore and characters, I'm increasingly unsure about playing the WoW game. Yet I always find myself going back to it, despite knowing about all the negatives I've previously experienced.

Bit long of a post, sorry. Just had to say it.

Do you enjoy playing and feel that your playtime is not adversely affecting you? The answer to that is all that needs consideration.

Do I enjoy playing? Yes and no, although "no" is more prominent right now and in recent times. There are a number of things I cannot stand in the game. I've tried my best to cope with it but it isn't working:

- players who pull before the tank (again, the tank is the leader and one who is supposed to withstand everything)
- players who cowardly leave before the end of a dungeon or raid without so much as a "sorry g2g" (I always do this)
- players who say negative things about/to you without any regard for your own feelings (words hurt too)

Just now before posting, I was on the WoW Legion Beta. I was queuing for a dungeon, and got in. After the first boss was defeated, the healer left the group. This happened the second time I queued for the same dungeon, so I logged out and left. Needless to say it was bloody frustrating. This isn't limited to the beta either. It happens on the live game too.

Games are meant to be fun, yeah? Not cause hassles like this? Perhaps the answer is clear then; don't play WoW ever again.

Sad too. The Legion expansion has potential.

I am just going back for the expansion after a year break. Which I have found to be the best thing.

I avoid been tank for the reasons you say as it's frustrating. The one I don't get is "why are you pulling so slow". hmm I am seeing the healer wouldn't cope but not complained and going ahead as they won't get better without running the dungeons/raids and sometimes they need a warm up. it's always the DD that complain I notice as well. I don't mind the healer saying pull more I trust they know they can cope.

But maybe consider something else for a while which isn't so short then go back for expansion.

I played wildstar for a while, I didn't level all the way though so can't say what end game is like. But it has a fast pace and I found it fun to play solo. I wasn't interested at the time in grouping just wanted something long like wow but I could enjoy on my own.

Generally speaking the tanks and healers are the least likely to be the most clueless idiots in a group in an MMO that ascribes to the holy trinity. They're the ones that usually get blamed for a wipe regardless of the situation and their roles and the strategies needed to execute said roles successfully are far more complex than that of most damage dealers. Hence they tend to ally against the drooling, thumb up their butts DPS that whine about things going slowly. It helps that DPS are a dime a dozen and kicking one usually results in them getting replaced in a couple of minute if not seconds on active servers.

In my many years as playing a tank across WoW and a bunch of other MMOs I've only encountered one a**hole healer and that was in FFXIV Heavensward. Had a newbie DPS that was still learning their role and this idiot was deliberately face pulling the final boss in a dungeon. We ended up have to kill the attempt after we kicked him and couldn't find a replacement.

One thing I do like about FFXIV is DD can't be clueless idiots as much on boss fights. The mechanics won't let you.

In my experience playing since 2009 (mained a hunter the whole time, pretty damn good at it too) 9/10 times it's the hunter/archer who gets blamed immediately, unless someone else admits it's their fault. I've been kicked from groups just for being a hunter before the dungeon even started, and i don't get why everybody hates hunters. A well prepared hunter that knows the class, and what they can/can't do, as well as when to use/not use abilities is a highly valuable asset. i spend most of my time standing by the healer while doing dps so the tank can focus on the fight because i guard the healer. during MoP in patch 5.4 i was ilvl 482 on my hunter ripping out 100k dps on average (raid geared hunters were doing the same dps in dungeons as i was at that point while they were ilvl 520+) which is why i look forward to Class Order Halls in legion, those of us (hunters) who know what we're doing and are damn good at the class can teach new or otherwise inexperienced hunters who to play the class properly, so we can try getting out of the seemingly unending chasm of hatred towards us. i like FFXIV as well, but haven't played since before heavansward (can't afford the sub atm) i play a Moon Clan Mi'qote archer named Leo (might be Ryo) Crueger atm on the Brynhildr server under the Primal data center, probably switching to gunner (once i purchase heavensward)/ninja later. but in regards to the OP in my experience having people you know/are comfortable playing with definitely helps with desire to play the game or not. if you want i'd happily join you while playing once i renew my sub next month to get it going to finish preparing for legion (couldn't afford it this month) my b-tag is Riftrider#1236 if you're interested.

I'm well aware of the rep Hunters have in WoW. Although like me, there are Hunters out there who know what to do and, more importantly, what NOT to do.

On the flip side, tanking is not something I can do with little to no stress. After an incident earlier, I think I've truly had it with the role. I'll stick to damage dealing from now on, because it is the least stressful of the 3 roles.

You could see if you could find a game or two you like the look of with a lot of replay value or lengthy single player campaign. You could then play a non-WoW game or games for a time and see how you feel in that time going without.

I'm rage-quitting WoW a lot recently. Too many times do I see incompetence and stupidity.

- a tank (bear druid) wandering off to pick up one enemy, unnecessarily, only to attract others and get the group killed
- tanks in an LFR raid who weren't obeying mechanics and didn't move the boss out of a danger zone (fire on the ground)
- as in a previous post, healers leaving soon after one boss is defeated
- again as previous, players who leave without saying, at least, "sorry g2g"

Based on these points alone, WoW is no longer for me...yeah?

Well only you will know. It sounds like my break idea is a good one then you can take stock. Games should be pleasurable, especially one you pay a fee to keep playing.

You could take my suggestion or look into older, cheaper games so it costs little if you don't like one.

Yeah have a break for a few months it sounds like it would be for the best.

I have taken up your advice Drake. I downloaded Heroes of the Storm (another Blizz game, but whatever). Played a few matches and it's fun so far.

ZD I am breaking from it. Although given what I've said, I'm not sure returning is a good idea.

The WoW lore still interests me, as do the beautiful cinematic videos. That's about it though.

Sorry for all this. Once I found this forum, I thought maybe it'd be a safe place to unload.

There is one thing I could still do: multi-boxing. Defined as (in basic terms) "one PC runs multiple accounts".

If I did this, it would truly be under my control, and I could raid without ever having to touch LFR. Normal raids are a minimum of 10 players, which is fine by me.

The only factors against this are such:

1) The cost of multiple PCs and multiple accounts would be taxing, no pun intended. I don't work, so I'd have to save up for a while. Even then, I'd have to question the worth of the plan.
2) Setting up multiple classes to tank, heal, and dps would take some work. Not impossible, but complicated at best. I'd spend quite some time setting it all up to work correctly. Some boss mechanics could also interfere with the setup.

This is just a concept right now. I'm on the fence about it. Plus my room isn't that big either LOL!

Can't even get away from cowards on "Heroes of the Storm". Always leaving and then rejoining only to leave again. I don't have time for s**t like that!