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10 Apr 2010, 7:04 pm

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If there is a God


There isn't.


I doubt God's existence but where do you gain such absolutely positive knowledge?



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10 Apr 2010, 7:09 pm

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If there is a God


There isn't.


I doubt God's existence but where do you gain such absolutely positive knowledge?


When did I say I was absolutely positive?

If I've understand the claims of various people correctly, I'm absolutely positive that the God of the major monotheisms does not exist. However, I am not, and I doubt any rational person could be, absolutely positive that some sort of sentient creator God doesn't exist. I still don't believe in one, though.

Of course, there are people who define God as some kind of vague 'energy' or 'spirit' or 'force' or something along those lines. I also doubt that anything like that exists, but, obviously, I'm less certain here.



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10 Apr 2010, 7:29 pm

you_are_what_you_is wrote:
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you_are_what_you_is wrote:
Sand wrote:
If there is a God


There isn't.


I doubt God's existence but where do you gain such absolutely positive knowledge?


When did I say I was absolutely positive?

If I've understand the claims of various people correctly, I'm absolutely positive that the God of the major monotheisms does not exist. However, I am not, and I doubt any rational person could be, absolutely positive that some sort of sentient creator God doesn't exist. I still don't believe in one, though.

Of course, there are people who define God as some kind of vague 'energy' or 'spirit' or 'force' or something along those lines. I also doubt that anything like that exists, but, obviously, I'm less certain here.


It's comforting to know that "There isn't" is a mere indication of your insecurity in the matter.



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10 Apr 2010, 7:33 pm

Sand wrote:
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Sand wrote:
you_are_what_you_is wrote:
Sand wrote:
If there is a God


There isn't.


I doubt God's existence but where do you gain such absolutely positive knowledge?


When did I say I was absolutely positive?

If I've understand the claims of various people correctly, I'm absolutely positive that the God of the major monotheisms does not exist. However, I am not, and I doubt any rational person could be, absolutely positive that some sort of sentient creator God doesn't exist. I still don't believe in one, though.

Of course, there are people who define God as some kind of vague 'energy' or 'spirit' or 'force' or something along those lines. I also doubt that anything like that exists, but, obviously, I'm less certain here.


It's comforting to know that "There isn't" is a mere indication of your insecurity in the matter.


No, 'there isn't' is a statement of my belief. However, when I wrote it, I hadn't considered that last way of understanding God. That was a mistake; I should have clarified at the time.



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10 Apr 2010, 7:41 pm

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Atheists will likely give you your best answer on this. Even with a God, we might as well ask why he made diabetics - we're nothing *that* special.


As a type I diabetic with Celiac disease and Asperger syndrome am I that special?

Lol, touche.



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10 Apr 2010, 11:31 pm

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He didn't. There is no God.


Frank Zappa comes close though, right?


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11 Apr 2010, 8:45 am

Actually I was always an Aspie. No God changed me whatsoever.



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11 Apr 2010, 9:59 am

Fuzzy wrote:
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He didn't. There is no God.


Frank Zappa comes close though, right?


The God of the major monotheisms comes across to me as a rather unpleasant character. I prefer to think of Zappa as Satan. He certainly looks like how I always imagined Satan to look.



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11 Apr 2010, 2:49 pm

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Actually I was always an Aspie. No God changed me whatsoever.

Really? I was an NT until I saw the light of wisdom. :wink:



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12 Apr 2010, 12:42 pm

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same reason he gave men nipples and planted dinosaur fossils and faked the big bang and faked evolution. greatest sense of humor in the multiverse.


I'm not Christian.


maybe you should convert. they're god seems to be the most powerful. he's certainly got the most assault rifle sighting systems dedicated to him. maybe he can answer your question?



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12 Apr 2010, 2:03 pm

Sand wrote:
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If there is a God


There isn't.


I doubt God's existence but where do you gain such absolutely positive knowledge?


Logical positivism. 8)



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14 Apr 2010, 3:05 am

there is no god, human nature is still being studied, and a hundred years from now we mgiht still find surprizes



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14 Apr 2010, 3:12 am

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there is no god, human nature is still being studied, and a hundred years from now we mgiht still find surprizes


I fully acknowledge there is no acceptable proof of God but like the possibility of underground Munchkins on Mars I am holding final judgment in reserve. If and when He contacts me I will notify this site and whatever psychological authorities that are available.



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14 Apr 2010, 3:57 am

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maybe you should convert. they're god seems to be the most powerful. he's certainly got the most assault rifle sighting systems dedicated to him. maybe he can answer your question?



There is at most One God.

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14 Apr 2010, 5:32 am

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maybe you should convert. they're god seems to be the most powerful. he's certainly got the most assault rifle sighting systems dedicated to him. maybe he can answer your question?



There is at most One God.

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Such certainty!



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14 Apr 2010, 8:22 am

Sand wrote:
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waltur wrote:
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maybe you should convert. they're god seems to be the most powerful. he's certainly got the most assault rifle sighting systems dedicated to him. maybe he can answer your question?



There is at most One God.

ruveyn


Such certainty!


At least you're honest, Sand. There are many who foolishly put forth with absolute certainty that there is no god/God whatsoever. I have in the last year or so come to the conclusion that there are rarely such things as true atheists. Many who claim to be atheists are, in truth, agnostics in denial.