Another answer for UFOs...
Cheep, but its like drinking transmission fluid
Ive seen bottles of "MD 20/20" only a few years ago.
Cisco is like cough syrup spiked with rubbing alchol. Not as bad as transmission fluid, but bad enough. One unusually entertaining homeless panhandler I encountered told me that "the peach flavor isnt so bad", but I never felt motivated to try even that flavor again.
This is getting so tireing.
The super strange balloon exists! If you don't believe me, too bad! Had I taken a picture of it, I would have to jump through hoops of condecending nonsence just to get a person to look, only so they could give me more condecending snobbery. Why would I be mad?
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There is no valid material evidence for the existence of extraterrestrial life, and this includes angels, demons, devils and gods. Thus, any claim to the contrary is faith-based and disingenuous at best, or delusional at worst.
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Right now we have no evidence that
1. Extra-terrestrials have visited us
2. The extra-terrestrials -can- visit us. The stars are very far away.
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That is assuming humans on earth are the most technologically advanced beings in the universe......if an alien race has more advanced technology what would be stopping them from visiting this planet? And there is no direct evidence that proves or disproves 100% whether or not they have visited this planet. I mean what is science fiction to us could be normal life on some distant planet who knows.
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And I have a better idea, maybe the possibility of beings from other planets existing and possibly visiting this planet and influencing humans does not point to spiritual entities or the bible.......maybe some of the supposedly 'spiritual' stories in the bible are actually pointing to physical beings of other planets rather then beings from the spirit world...I mean in the context people in ancient times saw things they could have easily confused extra-terrestrial visitors with gods. Its kinda what I am thinking, but most people would find such a theory insane.....I find it quite plausable however.
That is how I read Ezekiel and Wheels Within Wheels. A lander of some sort.
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You will do it.
But this is new. If somebody says you are wrong and there is valid material evidence for the existence of extraterrestrial life, he is disingenuous or delusional?
Such certainty.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11983169/ns ... es-traces/
What is your background that you can state definitively that these guys are all wet?
Mind you, I tend to agree that they are - but I am not able to be definite about it.
While we are at it, "angels, demons, devils and gods" [I wonder what your distinction between demons and devils is?] are not in the normal sense of the word "extraterrestrials".
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That is how I read Ezekiel and Wheels Within Wheels. A lander of some sort.
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That is how I read a lot of stories in the bible...but yeah I find it extremly hard to belive earth is the only planet in the entire universe with life.......and considering how large the universe is I have to assume we are not the most technologically advanced beings. Then of course there is that story my dad told me about how he was investigating where some weird noises in the forest were coming from when he was a kid......and came across a huge craft of some sort. Then suddenly he was back on the dirt road with no memory of how he got there..I am only seeing one obvious explination unless of course it did not really happen but that is doubtful.
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Hardly!
We all know that flying saucers are really misplaced angel's halos!
That was one of the first theories posited during that first wave of flying saucer sighings in the late fourties.
But seriously: Basically you're just a reverse version of Eric Von Daniken.
Erik Von Daniken wrote a series of sensational best selling paper backs in the 1970's (Chariots of the God, etc) postulating that all those 'supernatural' beings our ancestors encountered in ancient myths coming out of the sky ( in the bible, greek, hindu, and mesopotamian mythology) were all really space aliens and their craft.
The ark of the convenent was really a two way radio for moses to consult with god ( who was really an alien in a mother ship or something).
you're saying the exact opposite. That when we space age moderns encounter what we think are spacefaring aliens -we are really encountering supernatural beings from the bible. you're putting the accent on the negative- saying that they are demons- but they might be a mix of angels and devils.
So- the ancients mistook space aliens for angels and demons.
And we moderns mistake angels and demons for space aliens.
Damn! Which is it?
I think its neither. I think both you and Van Daniken have sipped too much Mad Dog.
I guess trying to explain WHAT Satan and his demons are, and the influence they exert over humans, using metaphors like "alien" and "extraterrestrial presence" backfired. People see "alien" and "extraterrestrial presence" and they automatically think little green humanoids flying around in space ships abducting people and slaughtering cows. For all intents and purposes the Bible says he, and his demons, are extraterrestrial presences. Paul writes in Ephesians 6:11-12 "Put on the complete suit of armor from God that YOU may be able to stand firm against the machinations of the Devil; because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against . . . the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places." Peter compares Satan to a roaring lion seeking to devour someone, and warns to "Keep YOUR senses, be watchful." (1 Peter 5:8) To say these "aliens" are malevolent is a gross understatement. The moment they rebelled against God (Genesis 3:1-5; 6:1-4) they were condemned to their fate. (Revelation 20:1-3; 2 Peter 2:4-5; Luke 8:26-34; Genesis 3:15) Since being oust from heaven their collective aim is to have as many humans as they can distract share their doomed outcome. (2 Corinthians 4:3-4) In other words these spiritual beings aren't humans, and they don't live on Earth, but because they are condemned to the vicinity of this planet they exert maleficent influences on humans, who in turn, mimic their rage in the form of endless warfare, pain and suffering, crimes committed, and the list goes on and on. All of this is happening on a global scale never before seen exactly as Jesus described. (2 Timothy 3:1-5; Matthew 24:6-13) Of course this story has an happy ending. Jehovah God, through his son Jesus (now enthroned King of Jehovah's Kingdom (Luke 22:28-29)), will act as benevolent "aliens" and bring an end to the activities of Satan and his demons. Once removed conditions on earth will dramatically improve! :)
Of course all of this is predicated on faith, and as 2 Thessalonians 3:2 states "faith is not a possession of all people". But as a witness of Jehovah I am obligated to warn people about what's coming (Matthew 24:14, 28:19,20; Romans 10:11-15) What you do with the information is your choice.
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"Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld." (Hebrews 11:1) Faith is also one of the nine aspects of God's spirit. (Galatians 5:22,23) To take it one step further the apostle Paul writes, "Moreover, without faith it is impossible to please [him] well, for he that approaches God must believe that he is and that he becomes the rewarder of those earnestly seeking him." (Hebrews 11:6)
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and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore.
The former things have passed away."
There are two main factions of aliens, the Galactic Federation of Light and the Orion Group. The Federation works closely with angels and spiritual forces while the Orion group is based on the paranoia inducing aspects we're familiar with (grays, reptilians, MIB).
It's all there on the Internet.
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Of course all of this is predicated on faith, and as 2 Thessalonians 3:2 states "faith is not a possession of all people". But as a witness of Jehovah I am obligated to warn people about what's coming (Matthew 24:14, 28:19,20; Romans 10:11-15) What you do with the information is your choice.
How do you explain cases of non-grey/nordic/reptilian species that either took a look around and left, did some medical exams (no genetic experiments) and left, or mad a rough emergency landing and left? How do you explain small groups of tall greys engaging in behaviors that would be useless for a fallen angel? There appears to be a kernel of truth to what you are saying but you have grossly simplified the matter almost to the point of absurdity.
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