Is being gay wrong?

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i'm a chick and *i'm* wincing!

though mostly at the thought of such brainwashing. it makes me sad.

another thing which has occurred to me is that the discussion here is centred on gay men. are lesbians exempt fromall this, then? [/quote]

When I was a little stupid kid, I went to church for my confirmation, and there was this female LESBIAN PRIEST, but also this other "priest-assistant/teacher" who resinged because she hated lesbians... kinda sad... but at least the lesbian priest wasnt fired. After my confirmation I felt that something was terribly wrong, and quickly realised that I was an atheist.

Uhm and I was just wondering.... Is is gay to be wrong?

Ok, most here have agreed that being gay is not wrong. What about being double gay. Is that wrong?

Ha! That's my new favorite joke philosophical question. Right up there with "What if the Hokey-Pokey is really what it's all about?"

THE PRESS (New Zealand) 2 AUG 2005 — Page 2
Gay men 'suffer more problems'

Young gay men are five times more likely to suffer mental health problems than straight men, a long- running Christchurch study shows.

The 27-year-long Christchurch Health and Development Study found homosexual activity and orientation was linked to higher rates of depression, anxiety, illegal drug use and suicidal thoughts.

The rate of mental health problems in young lesbians is double that of exclusively heterosexual women.

Study director professor David Fergusson, of the Christchurch School of Medicine and Health Sciences, said the findings added to a growing body of research supporting the link. Reasons for the increased risk is due to homophobia, because of all the pressures, adversities and discrimination they experience," he said.

OMG that's too funny



what's double gay? too damn happy?


i agree, a lot of guys have this double standard. gay chicks is hot, gay guys not. it's really childish really.

I don't think that it's wrong to be Gay. I'm Straight, and I still don't think it's wrong to be Gay. I'd be friends with anybody who appears to be decent, regardless of their Sexuality. I also believe that being Gay isn't a choice. I've known a lot of Homosexuals at my Highschool who struggled with the beliefs of ignorant people who thought otherwise, and I think it's wrong for anybody to have to deal with such hatred. In my opinion, it's just as natural to be Gay, as it is to be Straight. It's like a bowl of red apples with a green apple added into the mix. The green apple is different in some ways, but it's alike in other ways. That's how I see Gays. They're different, because they're attracted to their own Gender, but they're like everybody else, because they have Brains, feelings and moral standards.

The New Zealand AIDS Foundation have commented on the Otago University study which revealed that young gay men have five times the mental health problems of young heterosexual men; saying our country’s “macho culture” may be to blame.

Spokesman Steve Attwood says the problems which face young gay people are a reflection of the marginalisation and persecution which has long been associated with New Zealand “macho culture".

Attwood also suggests the research confirms that with mental health issues comes increased exposure to risks such as unsafe sex and exposure to HIV.

The study surveyed almost 1000 Christchurch born young people. It showed statistics which confirmed what LGBT groups have speculated for years: that same-sex attraction in young people corresponds to a higher likelihood of depression, anxiety, drug and alcohol dependence, antisocial behaviour, suicidal thoughts and attempts.

Research showed that young men of predominantly homosexual orientation had mental health problems five times higher than young heterosexual men, and that young lesbians had mental health problems at nearly twice the rate of young heterosexual females.

not surprised.

i'd be interested in looking at stats about the increase in STI's, actually, as (the last time i looked), i do believe that they WERE rising, but not necessarily in the gay population. oh, and the majority of cases of AIDS/HIV infection in africa is amongst the heterosexual population (again, the last time i looked, which was recently). in fact, i shall wander over to google and have a look, shortly...

yep. info on UK stats here:

http://www.hpa.org.uk/infections/topics ... iology.htm

I could be wrong but doesn't that go for most minorities in a majority environment who are often singled out???

Also, would like to reiterate, I have never seen a Butch and Femme porn for one specific reason: Butches remind men too much of men and men don't wanna see that while... erm-- watching the flic.

"Lesbian Porn" is not really accurate to RL for the most part. A man does not want to see a Butch getting it on with a Femme. And most of those "lesbians" aren't even lesbians.

Actually you hit the nail on the head there, Sophist. It's not homosexuality's fault, it's society's. All gay people are going to go through depression because of the discrimination and hatred they've had from others, and depression of any kind can lead to any of the above instances happening, that's why these things are more likely to happen to gays, not because gays are stupid or anything.

Being taught your whole life that you are an evil abomination and that "god hates you" and that you are sick and disgusting is what causes that.

The churches LOVE that stat. What they don't like to tell you is that in places that don't have "fags must die" mentality, that is not the way things are at all. I came out at 35, I was a depressed, hateful, crabby self hating violent jerk.

Then I got a therapist who got it through my head I was NOT SICK! I was healthy, and normal and everyting was alright. Now I LOVE being alive!

From the time you are born in most judeo-christian-moslem homes you are taught that gays are evil, disease ridden child molestors, and that you woud be better of dead than be one. That even thinking like that is a sign of internal evil, and that you have no right to live.

And if you DO come out, especially young, be prepared to have your own FAMILY close the door in your face, to have your friends walk away, to possibly lose your job, or even your place to live. And of course, if you are culturally percevable as gay be ready for anything from attacks from strangers, to vandalism of your property.

With all the s**t that is done to Lesbians and gays usually in the "name of god" they wonder WHY a lot of young people have problems, especially when they first come out???????

Guess I'm lucky that I'm usually mistaken by strangers as a young teenage boy. Better than being whispered about or looked at. Though I do often get a funny look if my mother asks me to buy her some wine and then I have to show them my ID to get it. Hehe. They usually pause for a second to come to realization.