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CarpeDiem118
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03 Sep 2007, 9:47 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Angels are fellow servants of God along with us, they're a different and more powerful creation than man but apart from God they would have no power. Read in Job, even the accuser has to obey God. In Revelation it says

Revelation 22:8-9 KJV
[8] And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
[9] Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.

Yes! Thank you.

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03 Sep 2007, 11:57 am

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Who made you the judge? Isn't that up to God to decide!?

Anyone?

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03 Sep 2007, 11:59 am

Pandora wrote:

And let's not forget that the people who go on the most about being true Christians are often the ones who act the least christian? If they were good Christians, their actions would bear this out. They would not have to say anything.

It's like somebody who smells really nice. They don't have to tell people "I've put on a lot of perfume or aftershave or powder". If they did say that, one might wonder what kind of smell they are trying to cover up.

Good point.

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03 Sep 2007, 1:18 pm

I find that many good Christians live by example, and who only preach or share when asked for their opinion. They have an open and tolerant mind towards people who hold beliefs different from their own, and even towards people who hold to a different type or denomination of Christianity. They are willing to be inspired by people from other faith, such as Mahatma Gandhi (Hindu), Buddhists, Jains, Pagans, and many unsung heroes and caring people from all faiths Christians and otherwise.

Whether they are true Christians remain to be seen, as definitions of what is true Christianity may vary from denomination and church and religion.

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03 Sep 2007, 2:43 pm

to hear this from an athiest, that's a compliment because that is how christians are ideally supposed to behave. Whether or not this has been the case is up for speculation. sometimes a nutjob pops up and ruins it for everyone else.

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03 Sep 2007, 2:52 pm

I also suspect its a smell test. Only god nose.

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03 Sep 2007, 4:40 pm

CarpeDiem118 wrote:

A true Christian believes in God, that "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God," and that forgiveness and accepting Christ's gift of redemption is the only way to Heaven. Every human sins, and every sinner (therefore, everyone) deserves to go to Hell, but Christ took our sins upon Himself on the cross (as the prophet Isaiah wrote) "pierced for our transgressions and punished for our iniquities" out of His unfathomable love for us. No sin is too great for God to forgive; Christ has them all covered if we only ask, for it is God's desire that no one should be lost, as he told Ezekiel. Now all we need to get to Heaven is to believe in our hearts and confess with our mouths.

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03 Sep 2007, 5:38 pm

I thought only catholics were true christians

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03 Sep 2007, 5:41 pm

kreb1958 wrote:

I find that many good christians live by example, and who only preach or share when asked for their opinion. They have an open and tolerant mind towards people who hold beliefs different from their own, and even towards people who hold to a different type or denomination of christianity. They are willing to be inspired by people from other faith, such as Mahatma Gandhi (hindu), buddhists, jains, pagans, and many unsung heroes and caring people from all faiths christians and otherwise.

That's really a good definition of a good christian, which thankfully there are some.

kreb1958 wrote:

Whether they are true christians remain to be seen, as definitions of what is true christianity may vary from denomination and church and religion.

Exactly, as for me a christian is a christian, but the term "True" Christian comes from different churches with separate views.

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03 Sep 2007, 5:42 pm

Only God knows for sure the hearts of men, but no, just being catholic wont save you.

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03 Sep 2007, 5:46 pm

greenblue wrote:

kreb1958 wrote:

That's really a good definition of a good christian, which thankfully there are some.

kreb1958 wrote:

Whether they are true christians remain to be seen, as definitions of what is true christianity may vary from denomination and church and religion.

Exactly, as for me a christian is a christian, but the term "True" Christian comes from different churches with separate views.

If they accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, then they're a "C"hristian. If they go to a building once a week to hear a boring guy talk about something they don't believe then they're a "c"hristian.

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03 Sep 2007, 6:02 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Correct english usage is "Christian" with capital C, regardless of denomination or level of adherence (whether saved, or how often Christians go to church).

I have corrected the capitalization in my recent post.

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03 Sep 2007, 6:16 pm

Yes, any reference to Christ, God, or Church is usually capitalized. However, nonbelievers usually prefer to show their disrespect by leaving it all lowercase. Also, the word "god" just means a deity, "God" on the other hand is a proper noun since it is a name of one particular Deity. And "church" refers to the building where the "Church" meets. Albeit, there are people who go to church but don't believe in God, those are "christians" in the nominal sense only. A "Christian" was nicely defined by CarpeDiem118.

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04 Sep 2007, 1:01 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

CarpeDiem118 wrote:

Honestly, I've known some hideous people who claimed to believe this doctrine. I think this definition falls a little short.

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04 Sep 2007, 1:06 pm

kreb1958 wrote:

I very much appreciate your thoughtful response to my originally somewhat snotty :oops:

questions. I don't think that any Christian should really use the term "true" Christian because in using the term a person automatically makes themselves the judge of who is true (going to heaven) and who is false (going to hell), and thereby they usurp the very divine authority in which they claim to believe.

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04 Sep 2007, 1:30 pm

spdjeanne wrote:

What constitutes a True Christian? Are only True Christians going to heaven? Who made you the judge? Isn't that up to God to decide!?

The above being the first post in the thread, there were no responses yet, but you already sound like you're yelling at them. Do you want people to answer? Why make a thread if not? Are you telling us, or asking us?

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