Failure to execute Cheney = rule of law nonexistent in U.S.

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Should Bush and Cheney be executed according to the word of the 1996 War Crimes Act?
Yes 62%  62%  [ 8 ]
No on the grounds that Cheney did nothing wrong 23%  23%  [ 3 ]
No on the grounds that the death penalty is wrong 15%  15%  [ 2 ]
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01 Sep 2011, 10:58 am

The 1996 War Crimes Act is plain. Those who order the torture of prisoners to death are to be executed. Cheney has confessed to said crimes. The refusal of authorities to prosecute him for this shows that the rule of law does not exist, that elites get a pass. The US is becoming a country where elites are above the law and increasingly immune to taxation also.



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01 Sep 2011, 7:13 pm

Congress and Bush signed the Military Commissions Act of 2006 as an amendment to make their specific activities legal under US law.


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01 Sep 2011, 8:18 pm

I can only imagine the trial that would have taken place, Cheney would have been found unaccountable for the actions of the torturers that resulted in the deaths of their prisoners and his order didn't explicitly state to kill them. He would have cited that his apparent 'confessions' were non-literal phrases, motivations or misinterpreted like saying, "Make him talk at all costs". It's textbook policy to always keep the problem down in the lower chain of command by cunning wordplay with how you deliver orders and the unprovable insinuations that lie in them. As infuriating that sounds, it's merely business as usual.


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01 Sep 2011, 8:31 pm

Silly rabbit. War crimes are never committed by our people, only our enemies.

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01 Sep 2011, 8:43 pm

Cheney/Bush/republicans won't be held accountable because Obama/Clinton/Democrats don't want to be held accountable for their own crimes for which their are many. They're both complicit.



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01 Sep 2011, 9:07 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Cheney/Bush/republicans won't be held accountable because Obama/Clinton/Democrats don't want to be held accountable for their own crimes for which their are many. They're both complicit.


And it's only natural to assume they'd want to keep their hands clean from such crimes too.


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02 Sep 2011, 10:15 am

Cheney shot a guy in the face, and the guy publicly apologized for the "trouble he was causing Cheney". The only other people on the face of this earth who could pull that off are all third-world dictators.



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02 Sep 2011, 11:15 am

People were tortured to death at Cheney's order before 2006, so that means that needle of Terre Haute is required for the rule of law to stand.



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02 Sep 2011, 11:27 am

Obres wrote:
Cheney shot a guy in the face, and the guy publicly apologized for the "trouble he was causing Cheney". The only other people on the face of this earth who could pull that off are all third-world dictators.


That was an accident. If the victim of the shooting chose not to sue Cheney then Cheney is off the hook.

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02 Sep 2011, 12:24 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Obres wrote:
Cheney shot a guy in the face, and the guy publicly apologized for the "trouble he was causing Cheney". The only other people on the face of this earth who could pull that off are all third-world dictators.


That was an accident. If the victim of the shooting chose not to sue Cheney then Cheney is off the hook.

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That's a little black and white, isn't it? Can you ever imagine yourself shooting someone in the face, accidentally or not (barring self defense of course) and being "off the hook"? Cause I sure as hell can't. That kind of privilege is reserved for those who are genuinely and legitimately feared.



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02 Sep 2011, 12:25 pm

Obres wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Obres wrote:
Cheney shot a guy in the face, and the guy publicly apologized for the "trouble he was causing Cheney". The only other people on the face of this earth who could pull that off are all third-world dictators.


That was an accident. If the victim of the shooting chose not to sue Cheney then Cheney is off the hook.

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That's a little black and white, isn't it? Can you ever imagine yourself shooting someone in the face, accidentally or not (barring self defense of course) and being "off the hook"? Cause I sure as hell can't. That kind of privilege is reserved for those who are genuinely and legitimately feared.


Hunting is a dangerous activity. Accidents happen. People who go hunting ought to know this.

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02 Sep 2011, 12:29 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Obres wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Obres wrote:
Cheney shot a guy in the face, and the guy publicly apologized for the "trouble he was causing Cheney". The only other people on the face of this earth who could pull that off are all third-world dictators.


That was an accident. If the victim of the shooting chose not to sue Cheney then Cheney is off the hook.

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That's a little black and white, isn't it? Can you ever imagine yourself shooting someone in the face, accidentally or not (barring self defense of course) and being "off the hook"? Cause I sure as hell can't. That kind of privilege is reserved for those who are genuinely and legitimately feared.


Hunting is a dangerous activity. Accidents happen. People who go hunting ought to know this.

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He was hunting quail in a stocked reserve. And regardless of the activity, shooting people in the face has repercussions, which do not generally involve being apologized to.



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02 Sep 2011, 12:31 pm

Obres wrote:

He was hunting quail in a stocked reserve. And regardless of the activity, shooting people in the face has repercussions, which do not generally involve being apologized to.


You are wrong. Cheney apologized and the other guy did not sue. End of case.

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02 Sep 2011, 12:38 pm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/13/AR2010101307173.html wrote:
When he was released a week later, a battered and exhausted Whittington did the apologizing: "My family and I are deeply sorry for all that Vice President Cheney and his family have had to go through this past week."


Apparently not



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02 Sep 2011, 7:49 pm

Obres wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/13/AR2010101307173.html wrote:
When he was released a week later, a battered and exhausted Whittington did the apologizing: "My family and I are deeply sorry for all that Vice President Cheney and his family have had to go through this past week."


Apparently not


The guy felt sorry about how Cheney was treated by the left-wing drive-by media.



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02 Sep 2011, 9:35 pm

Interesting discussion about Cheney

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... htning_rod


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