Obama Youth FOR PAUL!
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And yet, the former Obama supporter is now running a grass-roots campaign office for Ron Paul in an Iowa City suburb.
Heflin says he's a full convert who would vote for Paul in November. And he says he's just one of many young liberal voters who are receptive to the Texas congressman's stance on issues like cutting the military budget and ending the war on drugs.
Heflin says he's doing all he can to turn their open-mindedness into caucus votes.
"We definitely go to areas that are traditionally much younger [and] have a higher student population," Heflin says. "When we call people, I try to avoid a certain age demographic calling because I'm just not very successful."
Because the social safety net is a small price to pay for legal weed.
This is why I think we need limited suffrage.
Listen up young people of Iowa! You empty-headed brats are why daddy drinks! I hope you're happy.
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I think you're being unfair. Sure, the young left and various anti-war leftists who've endorsed Ron Paul really should look closer at his economic policies and parallels (outside of foreign policy) with Barry Goldwater, but the War on Drugs isn't a small deal. It's a very racially inequitable situation that's selectively targets the poor and minorities, anyone concerned with social equality has must be concerned with this inegalitarian campaign. I say this a teetotaller whose strongest recreational drug is caffeine.
I do not do drugs, yet I support Ron Paul, and ending the war on drugs. As far as the social safety net, I do not like government social safety nets, that's my main reason for supporting him, as when I get older, I don't wanna give 1/3-1/2 of my earnings to be squandered away by the government.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gab8FUbEpXk[/youtube]
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Well as a guy who just polished off a mountain of shrimp, a world class new york strip (is there anything better than surf & turf?) and washed in down with a 6 pack of FANTASTIC Diamond Bear Pale Ale, I have no problem with people indulging their senses and enjoying themselves...
I get the social problems with the war on drugs... I knew a lot of guys back in the day who made their money slinging dough and throwing rocks because that was the only way they could make a good living. Here's the thing... legal drugs would just put those guys out of business. We'd still have the bad impact of drug abuse in poor and minority communities, except now the drug money would leave the local community to fill the coffers of some corporation.
As one of my old friends would put it, "a brother gonna get screwed either way if a white man's involved."
In small southern cities like Little Rock and Savannah (I've lived in both places) young black males have NO PROSPECTS. Legal drugs won't change that and actually might make it worse for some.
Personally, I have no problem with legalized weed, but cocaine and opiates are a different matter. I can't bear to live in a society that lets junkies die, but I refuse to pay rehab for a plague of stupid a**holes. So, no legal heroin for me, thanks....
This post doesn't really have anything to do with the war on drugs. It has everything to do with the shallowness of Young American voters (who don't give a damn about the social impact of the war on drugs, by the way).
Sure the war on drugs and the war on Terror are important... but are they more important than the environment, social justice and lasting prosperity at home?
I just do not see how anyone of substance could go from supporting Obama to supporting Paul. That simply does not compute in my universe.
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I get the social problems with the war on drugs... I knew a lot of guys back in the day who made their money slinging dough and throwing rocks because that was the only way they could make a good living. Here's the thing... legal drugs would just put those guys out of business. We'd still have the bad impact of drug abuse in poor and minority communities, except now the drug money would leave the local community to fill the coffers of some corporation.
As one of my old friends would put it, "a brother gonna get screwed either way if a white man's involved."
In small southern cities like Little Rock and Savannah (I've lived in both places) young black males have NO PROSPECTS. Legal drugs won't change that and actually might make it worse for some.
Legalizing might take money out the pockets of some poor middle-men, but by and large it would have a net positive effect on impoverished communities (by ensuring they aren't needlessly arrested for nonviolent drug offenses).
There's a certain type of person who loves believes "great men (and women)" are the answer to structural problems with politics. They tend to hero-worship candidates whose ideas (or governing style) haven't been tested - Obama was that in 2008 and Ron Paul is the same in 2012.
Uh...how about everything around us gets more expensive because currency devalues due to all the money we spend?
As far as the people who do heroin and opiates, the dangers are already well known. Anyone who's gonna be idiotic enough to do it will do it legal or not, so making it legal will overall just make things easier for everyone. The same people go to rehab. It's the same exact thing as Prohibition in the 20s, just with the war on drugs, it's a smaller scale. My only concern in the legalization of these drugs would be on the international stage, as USA would have to have the Western world follow suit, or else said Western World will hate the USA, as freemarket cocaine and heroin with no complications in growing and production of it, well, you know the manufacturers would make a lot of money in export sales.
Then again, I didn't support Obama, or Bush for that matter either.
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And that's how fascist dictators are made.
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This video describes the mentality of Paulists quite accurately.
Caution; STRONG LANGUAGE
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYaujnR_8NE[/youtube]
And that's how fascist dictators are made.
That is pretty accurate.
And that's how fascist dictators are made.
Or it's just how people get voted into office.
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Caution; STRONG LANGUAGE
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYaujnR_8NE[/youtube]
LI BUR TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIEEEEEE!! !
Lifton's 6th criterion of thought reform:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_Re ... f_Totalism
Ef yoo dunt luv Ron Pull yoo dunt leik LI BUR TEEEEEEEEEEIIIIEEEEEEEE!
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I've mostly researched/written/studied Thought Reform in relation to religion, but it is so applicable here.
Someone should do a documentary.
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In other words, the kids in GoonSquad's post are all happily living in mount stupid.
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Caution; STRONG LANGUAGE
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYaujnR_8NE[/youtube]
LI BUR TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIEEEEEE!! !
Lifton's 6th criterion of thought reform:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_Re ... f_Totalism
Ef yoo dunt luv Ron Pull yoo dunt leik LI BUR TEEEEEEEEEEIIIIEEEEEEEE!
PS
I've mostly researched/written/studied Thought Reform in relation to religion, but it is so applicable here.
Someone should do a documentary.
Does that make me a hipster? I liked Ron Paul before he was cool, since 2006, actually.
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Does that make me a hipster? I liked Ron Paul before he was cool, since 2006, actually.
If you've like Ron Paul since 2006, that makes you less the object of contempt, and more the object of pity....
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A verbatim +1 on this from me, right down to my drug habits.
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