Are Their Any Political Independents On WP?

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31 May 2012, 7:52 pm

I am a very strong political Independent meaning I am not left or right wing nor am I a liberal or a conservative. Is anyone else a poltical independent?



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31 May 2012, 8:07 pm

Huh... sort of. I'm too ignorant about politics to say it for sure, It may be possible that you reached that conclusion about you out of studying both options and reaching the rational decision that neither one is really worth it, so it would be a bit unfair to compare that to my lack of knowledge :P


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31 May 2012, 8:11 pm

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Huh... sort of. I'm too ignorant about politics to say it for sure, It may be possible that you reached that conclusion about you out of studying both options and reaching the rational decision that neither one is really worth it, so it would be a bit unfair to compare that to my lack of knowledge :P


I have learned all I can about both parites both are full of hogwash in my opinon.



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31 May 2012, 8:15 pm

So my guess was right hooray!

I know a bit about the theoretical concepts of right and left, and for that matter I would lean into the left, but in practice most politicians are in for the money and the status instead of the people so... the hogwash option looks convincing :lol:


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31 May 2012, 8:23 pm

Yeah it does but I would like to get into politics for the people not the money.



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31 May 2012, 8:32 pm

Then you're not like most :)

But would such a politician succeed in a context were the other politicians would pressure to maintain the status quo?


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31 May 2012, 8:34 pm

I have been Independent since the 1964 election.

Barry Goldwater was the last candidate for whom I was whole-heartedly enthusiastic.

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31 May 2012, 8:38 pm

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Then you're not like most :)

But would such a politician succeed in a context were the other politicians would pressure to maintain the status quo?


To be honest it has never been done befor. But I think a politician like the one I talked about could work.



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31 May 2012, 8:40 pm

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I have been Independent since the 1964 election.

Barry Goldwater was the last candidate for whom I was whole-heartedly enthusiastic.

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That is really good to here I have nothing in common with the republicans or democrats in America. It is nothing but a joke really I mean the left and right fight all the time but bring no soloutions to our problems as a nation.



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31 May 2012, 8:49 pm

Registered independent myself. The 2 party system is a joke


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31 May 2012, 8:49 pm

In my country, Colombia, at least two politicians that appeared to be like what you said were assassinated when it was obvious they would win the elections. Other promising ones are just not proposed as candidates for important places, although once on my city someone won the Mayor elections in the capital without funding and without belonging to any party (with a certain number of signatures from people anyone is allowed to run for mayor, by law) and did good things for the city, our capital.

In Brazil, seems like Ignacio Lula da Silva was such a politician, and he played a pivotal role into turning Brazil into the booming economy that it is today, making life better of millions of people there. That was made from a political party he founded himself.

So yeah, it is possible to be that politican and change the country for the better, I give you that one. Such a politician would meet with huge resistance within the system though, that I can assure.


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31 May 2012, 8:56 pm

soutthpaw wrote:
Registered independent myself. The 2 party system is a joke


Yes it is my friend.



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31 May 2012, 9:05 pm

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In my country, Colombia, at least two politicians that appeared to be like what you said were assassinated when it was obvious they would win the elections. Other promising ones are just not proposed as candidates for important places, although once on my city someone won the Mayor elections in the capital without funding and without belonging to any party (with a certain number of signatures from people anyone is allowed to run for mayor, by law) and did good things for the city, our capital.

In Brazil, seems like Ignacio Lula da Silva was such a politician, and he played a pivotal role into turning Brazil into the booming economy that it is today, making life better of millions of people there. That was made from a political party he founded himself.

So yeah, it is possible to be that politican and change the country for the better, I give you that one. Such a politician would meet with huge resistance within the system though, that I can assure.


Sure the reason they would assassinate some one like that is really simple to answer they break the status quo.



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31 May 2012, 9:27 pm

Does the American Nazi Party not stand where you live Joker? They'd be right up.your street, given that you support Germany's NPD and all.



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31 May 2012, 9:32 pm

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Does the American Nazi Party not stand where you live Joker? They'd be right up.your street, given that you support Germany's NPD and all.


Key word Support I am a sympathizer for the NPD. Also This thread is not about me it is about if their are any political indepenents on WP also I have no Nazi tattoos but. I do have tatooed on me.

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31 May 2012, 11:37 pm

Shatbat wrote:
In my country, Colombia, at least two politicians that appeared to be like what you said were assassinated when it was obvious they would win the elections. Other promising ones are just not proposed as candidates for important places, although once on my city someone won the Mayor elections in the capital without funding and without belonging to any party (with a certain number of signatures from people anyone is allowed to run for mayor, by law) and did good things for the city, our capital.

In Brazil, seems like Ignacio Lula da Silva was such a politician, and he played a pivotal role into turning Brazil into the booming economy that it is today, making life better of millions of people there. That was made from a political party he founded himself.

So yeah, it is possible to be that politican and change the country for the better, I give you that one. Such a politician would meet with huge resistance within the system though, that I can assure.


I assume one of those you are referring to is Gaitán, but who is the other you are referring to?

Lula did do quite well, however once elected president, even he folded and gave in to threats and bribes. Very few of them are completely immune to threats and bribery and the ones who are end up like Torrijos.


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