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This is true. The jews also resolutely refused to integrate into society since that would mean losing their identity. This is not a criticism at all. If I were one of a tiny aspergian diaspora forced to wander Europe in search of a suitable home I would not welcome absorption and the subsequent annhilation of the aspie identity. My asperger's is a strong part of my identity. I suspect that the Jews were given a similar ultimatum: Assimilate or be rejected. Add on top of that the fact that the Jews bore the scars of persecution over thousands of years and you start to see why they were and are loathe to jeopardise the lineage which theyve kept intact through pogroms and exile. Plus this guy ends his diatribe with a reference to the masons and Albert Pike What is this?

Russia has historically been very anti-Jew. In fact, the infamous forgery The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion was written in Russia, around 1905, as a way to suggest to the Tsar that he might draw the peasants' anger away from the elite and toward the Jews. When Nicholas turned it down, it was printed in a leading anti-Jewish newspaper.

After the Revolt of Bar Kohkba around 140 AD, and the Jews' defeat (9/10 were killed), the remaining Jews settled well out of range of the Romans, along the Baltic Sea. At the time, the area was mainly home to scattered tribes who worshipped oak trees and wolves and stuff like that. The area was still forested and primitive. So, basically, as the tribes formed ethnic groups and became Christians, they already had a convenient enemy at hand. Christian missionaries taught the tribes that the Jews killed Jesus.

At the time, the tribes had no written languages, and Jews not only had such, they also had things called "books" that they were obsessed with studying. The tribes couldn't make sense of it. The Jews were unmistakably Other, and therefore the tribes hated them. Germania wasn't converted to Christianity until the 4th century AD, the Russians not until the Christian year 1000! Scandinavia had pockets of paganism until the 14th century. As late as 1920, Russia was 90% illiterate. The Jews had an obvious advantage, since Judaism has always been about education and success as a way to glorify Yahweh. The tribes reacted as you'd expect them to, and tried to wipe out the Jews. It wasn't until the 1930s that they had the tools to pull off a 100% extermination.

Also, I should note that Jewish scholars such as Dennis Prager who have studied antisemitism in depth (his book Why The Jews is required reading on the subject) believe that Europeans never really liked the idea of a single God. The way conversions worked in the old days, the king and his court would convert, then simply order the peasants to worship the new religion, under pain of death. So basically the tribes went from oak trees and wolves to Yahweh in one fell swoop. Unable to attack their kings, they instead blamed the Jews. Shooting the messenger. At least in America, one can worship oak trees or wolves to one's heart's content. Nevertheless, Jew hate survives even here, and is increasing as we import zillions of people from the third world. In addition, Obama is the most anti-Jewish president we've ever had. The Jews are increasingly finding themselves boxed in to a small sliver of land along the Mediterranean, surrounded by a human race that wants them exterminated.

I just read that. Ashkenaz Jews are NOT descended from the Khazars. They do in fact have a genetic relation to ancient Jewry. As for the story about Jews displacing Arabs, Alan Dershowitz rebuts this convincingly in his book The Case For Israel. Palestine in 1880 held a grab bag of nationalities, at least in the cities, while the countryside was populated by nomadic Arabs. The weird thing is, no matter where Jews settled in Palestine, they immediately met resistance from Arabs, who suddenly started demanding "their land" back. Land that was owned in absentia by slumlords in Beirut and Damascus, who were happy to sell to Jews as a way of ridding themselves of land that they couldn't do anything with. The Jews drained swamps and planted crops and towns; only to be surrounded at every turn with claims they were "stealing Arab land". This reminds me of Mexicans wanting the US Southwest back, despite the fact that the area in question was mostly American Indian and a smattering of whites before the California Gold Rush.

How is Obama the most anti-Jewish president? That's a ridiculous thing to say, the people that push that narrative are extremist neoconservatives and weirdo Evangelicals.

Crying out antisemitism is kind of like crying wolf now, it's wailed whenever anyone says a word contrary to Israel or doesn't fall in line with whatever they're doing or do exactly what they want. I can't help to laugh at anyone saying Obama is an antisemite, why? Because he didn't start a bunch of new wars for Israel? Because he only halfheartedly supported Israels bomb campaign against the people of Gaza? How dare he want a ceasefire to let in humanitarian aid!

If Obama is an Antisemite, then he's a pretty ineffectual one, as he's included plenty of Jews in his administration, and got more than enough Jewish support when he ran both times.
As for Jews resisting assimilation - in fact, most Jews in Germany prior to the Holocaust had thought of themselves solely as Germans of the Jewish faith, if they thought of themselves as Jewish at all. When eastern European Jews came to Germany as an unassimilated element, German Jews often were just as critical of them as were their Gentile neighbors.

It's a Russian paper. I find this utterly unsurprising. There are reasons why so many of the Jews in America and Israel are either Russian or of Russian/Soviet descent.

But Russia today is not communist anymore, and even when it was, most Russians only paid lip service to the communist party. Also, the roots of Antisemitism run very deep in Russia, and there had never been a national tragedy as the Holocaust in Germany to make the people wake up and reconsider their old beliefs.

Well, a large part of the Holocaust took place in what used to be Soviet territory, such as Ukraine and Poland. And the Soviet party even officially discriminated against Jews (and other minorities). They even forcefully deported them to some Oblast in the east, specifically for Jews.
I see a parrallel with historical Christianity too: their founder was Jewish (Jesus), but for centuries they persecuted Jews.
The Russia of today seems to suffer from a really hardcore nationalism where it's not a good place to be a minority.

The former Russian Empire also discriminated against Jews. They were forced to live "beyond the Pale", which was to the west of Russia: Poland, Lithuania, Ukraine. That is why there were so many Jews living there before the Nazis invaded.

(and somehow we messed up the quotes )
Mod. edit: fixed - but it would help generally if members would only quote what's necessary, when necessary. Re-quoting quotes of quoted quotes or quoting an entire post immediately below the original is not necessary.

While it is true that the Nazis had murdered Jews away from the eyes of their civilian population in places like Poland, Ukraine, and Russia, the official communist take was that the concentration camp inmates were Russian POW's, doubtlessly to keep popular sympathy from being extended to the Jews.