Cut all the benefits/welfare, fix the economy

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I was doing nothing but correcting your ignorance. Don't take forum posts so damn personally.

The reaction that Joe is exhibing towards you comes from the first 2 words of your post - "What crap".

Saying "I don't agree with that" or "Sorry mate, thats not quite right" would be better. But I guess in the fast paced word of forum typing, it would be easier to write "What crap".

Still no excuse to take things so personally. I've had worse said to me but I never took it too seriously, and certainly not personally.

Besides, the statement itself made no sense (what's Tesco got to do with anything?) and I'm sick of the crap you two have posted in the past. I have no patience for said crap anymore.

Well, I'm aware of other people's feelings on here and I try not to offend people, but some Aspies find this hard and don't understand what might upset people, so, ASP-Z, I shouldn't take your answers personally because you might find it hard to know how to answer properly without offending other people. It's not the ''what crap'' bit what offended me at all - it was the other posts you put, saying things what made me feel like a dimwit and/or a lazy arse, which I'm not. Well, I may be a dimwit, but I don't always like being reminded every day about the little I know.
But I am by no means a lazy person.

Joe90, my posts on this subject are in a general sense, not against any certain person.

I have stated that I have nothing against people who legitimately claim for things (though I still think the government shouldn't allow this, my issue there is with the government, not individuals), I only have an issue with people who live off of tax payers' money by choice.

Asp Z, whatever financial status a poster is in is their business. Whether they work for money or get paid benefits, thats their business. I am on benefits, thats my business. I didn't ask to be on benefits, they gave them to me because I took too long deciding on what to do as a job. By the way, I wanted to be a FARMER. We all know now that that dream would have been killed by the recession.

Jesus was a crazy man who believed his mother was a Virgin (a lot young boys do, by the way) and his father was God. He was bat-sh*t crazy.

He was a hit with the crowd when he served bagels and lox to the multitude. The gentiles call it loaves and fish. We call it bagels and lox.

ruveyn

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Read the post I wrote above yours. If you are actively looking for a job (as Joe90 is) then I have nothing against you. If you're not, then I do. It's that simple.

You can't say it's all your business when you not only announced it on a public forum but are taking money which belongs to the tax payer.

Okay, I get a job which pays X amount.

Out of that comes National Insurance and other taxes and bills.

Whats left is the amount I am claiming for now anyway.


So I ask, whats the point of working? Pride? What pride, I live in the United Kingdom. No pride here anymore.

I've become selfless and I let some body who needs a job to take what I would have applied for. They need it more then me.

Plus, I am 28 and have never worked a day in my life, why start now? How can you teach an adult to get their first job? Surely, that should have been introduced while I was in my teens.

Also, my qualifications are useless.

Ahh, see, this way of thinking is a problem, and it's why we've got such a large national debt now. You're basically using my money to sit on your ass doing nothing all day.

In fact, you're 28 and you've been doing it your whole life! Holy f**k! Unless you have some serious medical condition which means you're confined to a wheelchair and literally have mental retardation, there's no reason at all for that. You can't even blame the recession and current economic climate if you've been doing nothing for so long!

See, this is why benefits should be cut, so scroungers can get off their asses and go do something useful instead of stealing from the tax payer.

Get off your ass and do some work.

I'd say a few harsher things, but the forum rules wouldn't allow that.

It goes deeper then that:

The benefits I recieve have helped me to be an enterpriser.

I have more then most people in my social class. While it takes £25,000 for a deposit to put down on a house, the people have to borrow that from the bank, but I can literally plonk the same £25,000, in banknotes, on the table and say "House, please".

Yup, that's the issue. People who are used to sitting on their asses and getting money thrown at them have no incentive to do otherwise.

Again, this is why we have a massive national debt, and this is why benefits should be cut.

Who's the bigger fool?

Me - a diagnosed Aspie who is British born and claiming benefits.

An immigrant - from Iraq/Serbia who is given £40,000 a year and a house worth more then £200,000.

You're equal.

You don't need to be racist, too, you're already bad enough.

For you, there's no point. And indeed, I don't blame you for taking advantage of the system the way you do.

I do blame the politicians for setting up the system the way it is, to encourage people to be freeloaders instead of working.


Jobs are not limited in that way. Working allows your employer to expand, and after a year or two hire more people. There's nothing especially wrong with being selfish, but don't fool yourself - this doesn't make you selfless in any way.

I'm going now, before your baiting gets me banned. I should have realised that this thread was created for you to have a rant at the expense of the posters who have posted here.